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D6C oil deterioration

pjcat

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So and here is what our friend Gemini said: https://g.co/gemini/share/f7f4fd5b0c6e

How I will proceed from here on: I will stick with my Delo 400. I don’t think I will have much benefit from switching to a synthetic oil besides it costing more.
I will try to operate the machines more regularly so as to push out humidity and have them moving around and keep everything in motion.
After that, if I know that the machine will be parked for a longer period I will try to seal exhaust and air intake so as to limit the environmental humidity, which will go back inside the crank case.
 

reganj

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Is your exhaust covered? If it is not, would it make any difference if you put a cover on the exhaust stack?
I always put a soup can over my exhaust when I park mine.
 

pjcat

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I usually cover it only when I leave the machine outside. When I park it under its designated roof, I’ll leave it off. From now on, I will put it back on.
I am thinking even when I park the machine for longer to remove the pre-air cleaner and also cover that inlet so that at least as possible environmental humidity can enter the engine.
 

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I'm not an expert in oils or engines but almost every person I respected with dirty fingernails told me to start a machine at least once a month and bring the engine up to full operating temp before shutting it down. Also cycle through the gears and move/drive it if possible. This was also the mantra of our 'motor-pool Mondays' in the military. Getting the moisture out of the crankcase and keeping the seals lubed was more important than what the actual oil was for the machines that sat way more than being used.
 

HarleyHappy

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Covering anything metal, will create more humidity than you could ever imagine.
For my bikes, when they had to reside outside, I was always covering them for the winter, until a couple of times,I lifted the cover to find the entire bike sweating.
After that, I would put a drop light under them, all winter.
Then, I found it easier, to just coat everything with a good wax and leave them alone.
I also changed the oil every spring regardless of miles.
Now, I’m not so particular.
 

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Big trucks is what I know. HAZMAT is what I tow.
It was -20F this morning and the winter has been relentless. My wife is loosing her mind.

So, nowadays, where is the best area of the Puna district to purchase a chunk of lava?
Madame Pele' doesn’t scare me. Do a permitted yurt. Grow some papaya.

Bill Gates is spreading his GMO mosquitos around Puna this week. I’d rather deal with the dengue fever, malaria and Zika vs his Lab -grown mosquitos.
 

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Is your exhaust covered? If it is not, would it make any difference if you put a cover on the exhaust stack?
I always put a soup can over my exhaust when I park mine.
Funny story about covering exhaust pipes.
My little community purchased a new $80 million dollar ferry to go between Port Mac and the City of Anchorage.

After sea-trials, we had no place to dock or moor it. So, we found dock space in Ketchikan. But, nobody thought about putting a bucket over the stack.

Then, it got towed to Foss in Seattle for engine overhauls. $3 million dollars later and new sea-trials, we sold it to the Philippine Red Cross for $1.75 million in 2018.

That’s how we do things.
 

pjcat

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I'm not an expert in oils or engines but almost every person I respected with dirty fingernails told me to start a machine at least once a month and bring the engine up to full operating temp before shutting it down. Also cycle through the gears and move/drive it if possible. This was also the mantra of our 'motor-pool Mondays' in the military. Getting the moisture out of the crankcase and keeping the seals lubed was more important than what the actual oil was for the machines that sat way more than being used.
Yes I think you are right on this one; having a machine running more often is a better insurance policy. The only other thing I could think of, would be sending oil samples to lab. But then what? Still doesn't tell you the whole story and doesn't move the machine around.
 

pjcat

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Covering anything metal, will create more humidity than you could ever imagine.
For my bikes, when they had to reside outside, I was always covering them for the winter, until a couple of times,I lifted the cover to find the entire bike sweating.
After that, I would put a drop light under them, all winter.
Then, I found it easier, to just coat everything with a good wax and leave them alone.
I also changed the oil every spring regardless of miles.
Now, I’m not so particular.
Oh yes, a tarp over anything (specially in our nice little rain forest) creates an instant green house. Rust, mildew, mushrooms.. they are thriving here.
 

pjcat

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It was -20F this morning and the winter has been relentless. My wife is loosing her mind.

So, nowadays, where is the best area of the Puna district to purchase a chunk of lava?
Madame Pele' doesn’t scare me. Do a permitted yurt. Grow some papaya.

Bill Gates is spreading his GMO mosquitos around Puna this week. I’d rather deal with the dengue fever, malaria and Zika vs his Lab -grown mosquitos.
Well you sound like you lived on the island before? where did you stay?
If you ask me: you can get land in lower Puna for super cheap, but....don't cry if da lava comes and da volcano takes it back. And believe me, the question is not IF it comes but WHEN. can take 5, 10 ,20 ,50 years.. but it will happen.
We're in upper Puna, usually more rain. But in recent years thanks to climate change it got a lot less. Still... it's wet. And at 2'100 feet it's also cooler in summer and less mosquitos.
 

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We usually stay in Waikoloa. Or, the Waikoloa resort area. The Waikoloa Beach Villas is our favorite, or the Marriott. We used to visit on a regular basis when AK did direct flights from Anchorage. We should have bought a condo, when they were still relatively affordable.

We had lots of adventures on the BI. We got married at the Lava-Lava Club, We were there for the missile crisis, the Chinese green space lasers and Kīlauea. lol
We love it. What a great place.

We even hiked into the lava, right before Kalapana got smacked hard. That wasn’t very smart, but we survived.

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pjcat

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We usually stay in Waikoloa. Or, the Waikoloa resort area. The Waikoloa Beach Villas is our favorite, or the Marriott. We used to visit on a regular basis when AK did direct flights from Anchorage. We should have bought a condo, when they were still relatively affordable.

We had lots of adventures on the BI. We got married at the Lava-Lava Club, We were there for the missile crisis, the Chinese green space lasers and Kīlauea. lol
We love it. What a great place.

We even hiked into the lava, right before Kalapana got smacked hard. That wasn’t very smart, but we survived.

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Well, you should come here now: since over one year every 10-14 days the volcano puts a hell of a light show...pretty impressive.
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I just picked up my Wahine and a couple of her BFF’s from the airport. They spent the week in Waikoloa. I had too much work lined up to leave.

Mobilewrench lives on the BI. He’s a very pleasant fella. Good resource if you ever need a good mechanic.
 
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