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Cat D5 Track Issues

l3cam

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Thank you nige for all that info greatly appreciate it. I have the Track completely off working on getting the equalizer bar pin out tomorrow. Definitely a bent shaft from what it looks like front bushings look good in the Track Frame.
 

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JS430

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I see a ton of older LGP dozers for sale and always wonder how many people that buy them actually need them. I also wonder if a simple shoe change would make them hold up the same as a standard machine or if the wider gauge would work against you too much?
 

nicky 68a

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I’ll guess that it’s been hung up on a tree stump or rock.
As for the age of the tractor,the serial number found on the transmission may not match the chassis?
Just a thought.
Looks like the machine is nice enough and well worth fixing.
 

nicky 68a

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I see a ton of older LGP dozers for sale and always wonder how many people that buy them actually need them. I also wonder if a simple shoe change would make them hold up the same as a standard machine or if the wider gauge would work against you too much?
Here in the UK,it’s virtually unheard of to find any tractor smaller than a D8 that’s not lgp.
We have such a diverse mix of weather and material that running std undercarriage would see your dozer often stood fir 6 months or more.
 

l3cam

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I agree, especially by that much. Hence my question as to *** was the operator doing to bend it.?
I'm fairly certain that the LGP undercarriage setup is involved somehow.
I guy I know who does some work for me was using the dozer to push some top soil clean up some area for a septic field. The area he was clearing was pretty soft and down in a bog with lots of dead trees and massive stumps. I am not sure how he managed to do it...in my opinion he hooked it some how on a massive stump and turning aggressively at the same time and didnt let off. He has been a cat skinner for years but uses nothing less then a d6 to d8 . What are your guys thoughts because I am thinking now that he might have to pay for this? I'll send you guys pictures of the shaft.
 

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As I stated on my previous post,I think it’s been hung up on a stump or rock.
I’m not experienced enough to have seen any other reason for that kind of damage.
As for apportioning blame,that’s going to be an unpleasant ride for all parties.
Can you get some pics of the underside of the tractor,specifically noting any scuffs or fresh dents etc in the belly guards.
There’s a story to tell from the driver if you can find him!
That little lot didn’t just happen
 

l3cam

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Here in the UK,it’s virtually unheard of to find any tractor smaller than a D8 that’s not lgp.
We have such a diverse mix of weather and material that running std undercarriage would see your dozer often stood fir 6 months or more.
Yep, same with up here in northern canada lots of bogs and muskeg thays where the lgp come in handy i am assuming.
 

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It always a good policy to not jump to any ideas that might have or have not caused a mechanical issue, most often a failed Dead Shaft started to fail before your last Child was born, the inner cap bolts can often be found snapped off, it would be a fare guess to think the shaft has started to snap through so when was the oil level last checked on the shaft pivot, that is the 1/2" square drive plugs facing forward, don't be fast to blame other people for something that they probably had no hand in, by the way if it has the inner mount PAT Blade it rules out poor use of the blade, to pop off a Track Frame from an early D5 or D6 Hy-Drive would take me about 3 hours if the Beam pin was a pig.
 

tctractors

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It always a good policy to not jump to any ideas that might have or have not caused a mechanical issue, most often a failed Dead Shaft started to fail before your last Child was born, the inner cap bolts can often be found snapped off, it would be a fare guess to think the shaft has started to snap through so when was the oil level last checked on the shaft pivot, that is the 1/2" square drive plugs facing forward, don't be fast to blame other people for something that they probably had no hand in, by the way if it has the inner mount PAT Blade it rules out poor use of the blade, to pop off a Track Frame off an early D5 or D6 Hy-Drive would take me about 3 hours if the Beam pin was a pig, there looks a lack of oil in the pictures as the housing should be brim full.
 

l3cam

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It always a good policy to not jump to any ideas that might have or have not caused a mechanical issue, most often a failed Dead Shaft started to fail before your last Child was born, the inner cap bolts can often be found snapped off, it would be a fare guess to think the shaft has started to snap through so when was the oil level last checked on the shaft pivot, that is the 1/2" square drive plugs facing forward, don't be fast to blame other people for something that they probably had no hand in, by the way if it has the inner mount PAT Blade it rules out poor use of the blade, to pop off a Track Frame off an early D5 or D6 Hy-Drive would take me about 3 hours if the Beam pin was a pig, there looks a lack of oil in the pictures as the housing should be brim full.
I agree on not coming to a conclusion and pointing fingers but on the other hand I was operating the machine the day prior for 6 hours in the same area with no issues. When you rent heavy equipment in Canada you sign your life away and it pretty much says besides wear and tear whatever you breaky you buy... It's an old machine and it was definitely lacking oil in the housing thats my fault for not checking... didn't get the Track Frame off yet hopefully tomorrow ill have pics of the bushings. Ya it's definitely not a pain in the arse to work on.. finning discontinued the pivot shaft for that year of cat so they gave me the used parts email they are looking for me crossing fingers. Does anyone know of any good sites to look for Ting Tong? Thanks again everyone for all the help!
 

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