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case hytran equivalent

Discussion in 'Tractor/Loader/Backhoes' started by dixon700, May 12, 2014.

  1. dixon700

    dixon700 Well-Known Member

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    I believe the transaxle shuttle and brakes all on a 580sk call for case hytran. I will probably be changing the fluids shortly after purchase. Should I get the actual case hytran or does any hydraulic fluid that meets the case specs work?
     
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    I recently retired from a Case dealer with whom I have spent my whole working career(52 yrs). I have seen more damaged components, seals swelled up in hydraulic cylinders, excessive gear wear, excessive noise in geartrains,and many other oil related issues. Without going into specifics I was personally threatened with a lawsuit for recommending only Case products as several bought a brand popular here in Pa. that swelled the packings in our 580 series hoes so they had to be put on our rollback and pulled apart with a winch.

    I fully expect to get flamed for this post but you asked, Being unsure of the quality and the meeting of Case's specs in the hydraulic clutch power shuttle and seeing that that oil bathes the brakes and lubes the bearings and gears as well as filling the torque converter, I cannot recommend any substitute with the xception of one. Right now there is discussion on YTmag's site about suspicion of shortline oils breaking down the adhesive in PTO clutch discs and pictures of a suction screen virtually plugged with seperated lining material.

    In short, If I were running a later Case piece of equipment I would use nothing but Hy Tran Ultra. It cost one man on the Case forum thousands to have every lined disc in his 1370 ag tractor replaced from running a cheap oil. I could buy a lot of Hy Tran for what his repair cost. FWIW, I also believe HY Gard by JD to be a quality oil.

    OK guys, no piling on now

    Mel
     
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    Doesn't the Hytran Ultra also have additives to handle water differently than most oils?

    How sure are you of Hygard's compatibility? not it's quality, but compatibility. I have thought about using it, since the Case dealer is 70 miles, and the JD store is only 8, and I use Hygard in my JDs.
     
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    Personally, I would use hytran ultra as I just purchased a 2006 590mII and plan to do the same. It is what is recommended in operators manual. I also use it in a case ih combine so already have it on hand though. By the same token, however; I have a versatile mfwd tractor that has the same transmission as case ih mfwd and it came from the factory with mobil 424, whereas same case-ih tractor comes from factory with hytran. So I use mobil 424 in the versatile tractor. I believe mobil 424 is a direct replacement for hyran and also Kubota udt.
     
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    I had similar experiences when I worked for a Deere dealer with Deere machines and HyGard... In my opinion it's cheap insurance to use what the manufacturer says to use in drive train applications especially. The newer it is the more important that becomes also.

    :my2c
     
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    Many years ago I had a customer that wanted an alternative in his 580 SK, I filled with a quality name brand oil and the machine developed brake chatter. Drained the oil, re-fill with Hy-Tran, no more brake chatter. I agree with others, it may seem expensive, but it's cheap insurance. Also, it's not like with the motor oil that you change way more often.
     
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    It's just I don't know of any case dealers around here... it's a kubota dealer I'm gonna be buying the tractor from... guess I'll have to see if they can get case hytran and get on the case site to find some dealers.
     
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    A case constuction or case ag dealer will sell it they use the same fluid in both lines of equipment
     
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    Anymore I stick with OEM fluid as much as possible but I can state that I have run Hygard in place of Hytrans in our 580L and 580SM's w/o issue. They meet the same specs and are designed for the same uses. Plus, Hygard doesn't stink like the Hytrans does. LOL
     
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    Found 2 just under 50 miles hetricks and kahle. So if my kubota dealer can't get the hytran I know where to look.
     
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    I'd read somewhere that New Holland MasterTran is the same as CASE HyTran Ultra. It makes sense, but can anyone verify?
     
  12. dixon700

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    I've read that jd hyguard meets the hytran spec, but not the other way around so is hyguard held to a higher spec and is the best fluid? What is the best possible fluid for my 580k? Idt I should run travelers in everything.
     
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    I've also seen that Mobil 424 exceeds hytran spec.