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Case 1450 suction filter?

sheepfoot

Senior Member
Joined
Feb 16, 2008
Messages
1,259
Location
wilmington nc
Yes, unhook the rod at the mod valve, may have to do both ends so it does not jam on something. I was looking at your picks and you have the newer mod valve that you can adjust without the weight to shim it. Was waiting to see if you had a gauge made up to check some pressures while running. I know it's a pain in the butt with the seat/batteries/plate to keep moving. We had a tube frame seat made up along with a frame to hold the batteries that could be mounted on the rear with two 1/0 cables about 6' long to leave hooked up to the main battery posts so you could test and not have to do all that take out and put back on stuff. We had tried to get you to unhook the rod early and test for the mod sticking and not allowing it to build the pressure back, that little extra surge of rpms or oil will sometimes make that spool and spring tension pop that spool back and allow the pressure to build back. With it unhooked run the machine, be careful and don't do any hard F/R shifting at high rpms, let it come to a stop then shift. You will more than likely need to remove the mod on the front side and plunger to inspect, later if the pressure stays up. we will give you some more info later, but try it with the rod unhooked first. Really need some gauge sets to be able to watch pressures at different areas. Once again the flow rater is the best way to check it out, then if not avalible some different gauge setups so pressures can be watched. I am sure several are wanting to help you but some of these checks have to be done to know where we are at. We would like to say change the pump, rebuild the control valve and on and on but that mod valve does a lot and can drive you nuts along with a little piece of trash.
 

KevinArmentrout

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Joined
Jun 5, 2014
Messages
68
Location
King George, Virginia
No Problem Sheepfoot. I completely understand to follow your instructions to a T, this is all new to me and would not disagree or challenge anything you or anyone else has said. I am trying to follow all recommendations that everybody tells me, but some are easy than others. Removing the counterweight was a big step for me believe it or not. I am fully capable of doing everything, just never give myself credit and worry that I will mess something up more than it already is and nothing is cheap to fix. I removed the caps on the back side and checked everything you told me and retorqd according to the book. I've been looking at gauges and so forth and looks like the one at northerntool should do the trick. Just need to get the correct fittings, etc... that you have already explained and build one. I'll post back when I get the gauge made. The ones on the internet are ridiculous!

I like your idea about the cables! Those batteries are freakin heavy! Every time I have to check something or look at something then test, I have had to remove the plate and the batteries by myself. I have been pulling my tractor over and sliding both batteries out into the bucket. What a PITA!

I REALLY APPRECIATE all your help! Everyone's help! God Bless!
 

mbaepc

New Member
Joined
Sep 5, 2014
Messages
1
Location
houston,tx
fellow 1450B owner

Kevin,

My name is John, I am new to this forum and new to owning a Case 1450B, since you own the exact same machine I thought we could discuss, and maybe I could get somepointers from you.

I assume there is a way to IM you put I don't think I have enough privilidges yet, if you get a chance, please email me at [email protected] with contact info.

Thanks,

John





No Problem Sheepfoot. I completely understand to follow your instructions to a T, this is all new to me and would not disagree or challenge anything you or anyone else has said. I am trying to follow all recommendations that everybody tells me, but some are easy than others. Removing the counterweight was a big step for me believe it or not. I am fully capable of doing everything, just never give myself credit and worry that I will mess something up more than it already is and nothing is cheap to fix. I removed the caps on the back side and checked everything you told me and retorqd according to the book. I've been looking at gauges and so forth and looks like the one at northerntool should do the trick. Just need to get the correct fittings, etc... that you have already explained and build one. I'll post back when I get the gauge made. The ones on the internet are ridiculous!

I like your idea about the cables! Those batteries are freakin heavy! Every time I have to check something or look at something then test, I have had to remove the plate and the batteries by myself. I have been pulling my tractor over and sliding both batteries out into the bucket. What a PITA!

I REALLY APPRECIATE all your help! Everyone's help! God Bless!
 

KevinArmentrout

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 5, 2014
Messages
68
Location
King George, Virginia
I'm back everyone. Ok. Me and my buddy over Thanksgiving break ran the loader until it started acting up again,moved it to the shop, took out the batteries while it was running and unhooked the modulator valve.

Unhooking the modulator valve did absolutely nothing....At all. He stood in the back and was looking/holding the rod of the valve and the rod we disconnected it from and neither of them moved while shifting into any combinations of hi/low/rev/for etc...

Made no difference. Sounds very strange.... ok now I'm really lost. Where is the rod connected to the modulator valve go? I sat there and went through all the ranges of high/low/etc... brakes, etc.. and that rod did not move whatsoever.. Sorry guys I'm lost. I was thinking everytime I went into some gear/range this rod would bump causing there to be a "cushion" to the transmission to sooth the transition to the desired gear. Can someone help?
 

Tractortodd

New Member
Joined
Aug 16, 2015
Messages
1
Location
Saint Joseph, MO
1450b case crawler tractor. Is the transmission the same as the 1450?

Our 1450b does the exact same thing. Is the tranny the same in a 1450? We know where there is a good one as a pipe layer and we could part it out
I'm back everyone. Ok. Me and my buddy over Thanksgiving break ran the loader until it started acting up again,moved it to the shop, took out the batteries while it was running and unhooked the modulator valve.

Unhooking the modulator valve did absolutely nothing....At all. He stood in the back and was looking/holding the rod of the valve and the rod we disconnected it from and neither of them moved while shifting into any combinations of hi/low/rev/for etc...

Made no difference. Sounds very strange.... ok now I'm really lost. Where is the rod connected to the modulator valve go? I sat there and went through all the ranges of high/low/etc... brakes, etc.. and that rod did not move whatsoever.. Sorry guys I'm lost. I was thinking everytime I went into some gear/range this rod would bump causing there to be a "cushion" to the transmission to sooth the transition to the desired gear. Can someone help?
 
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