Well i ended up picking up a backhoe. Its an old ford 4500. I got a pretty good deal on it, its a machine that came off a cemetary over near youngstown ohio. It was the only machine out of maybe a dozen that was willing to start by just cranking it over. The day i looked at it the temps were about 5 degrees and it fired up inside of a minute or so after sitting for a few weeks. Its been stored indoors all its life and has maintenance records going back to the early 70s when the cemetary bought it and shows about 3000 hrs on the meter. By the way it started in the cold i dont think it could be 13000 hrs. All the joints are pretty tight and its got plenty of power. Ive done some work around the house with it and while the 4 stick isnt as easy as joysticks, it gets the job done. Ill sure say this thing beats the pants off a shovel, it wouldve taken me months to get done what ive been able to accomplish in about 8 hrs. It came with a bunch of sales literature, an operators manual, and a service manual for the tractor. Its got alot of original paint on it, but it does need a good pressure wash and most of the hoses have been replaced except a couple for the lift arms. It does do some pretty wild wheelies up the one hill, but ill just be careful there. Thanks to everyone for the advice given in my other thread.