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A New Leaf.

R Leo

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Apr 25, 2007
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108
Location
Texas
Last week, I finally formed and insured my business entity: Leo Bulldozing, L.L.C. and am now actively seeking light dozer work in Central Texas. By the end of the year I plan to leave my 'day job' to do this full time.

Bid my first formal job yesterday and already have an informal backlog of work where folks have said they have work for the machine when I do get up and going.

More as the saga progresses...
 

DPete

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Joined
Feb 21, 2007
Messages
1,677
Location
Central Ca.
Good luck to you, scrapers have always been my bread & butter. I could not survive on a dozer only operation in my area.
 

bigpete

Member
Joined
Nov 6, 2007
Messages
7
Location
BRISBANE, Australia.
Occupation
Dozer operator
Bigpete

Goodluck hope it goes well for you,if there is only half the work on there as here (downunder) you will do OK,CHEERS
 

Countryboy

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Jun 8, 2006
Messages
3,276
Location
Georgia
Occupation
Load Out Tech. / Heavy Equipment Operator / Locomo
Welcome to HEF bigpete! :drinkup
 

RollOver Pete

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Mar 5, 2007
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Location
Indio, Ca
Occupation
Operating Engineer/mechanic
Good for you!
Just remember, people are stingy when it comes time to pay their bills.
So prelim, prelim, prelim!
If they have a problem with it, they probably weren't planning on paying you in a timely manner.
The object of the game is to make money.
Know what your operating cost is including your own wages then mark it up.
If you cant make a profit and set money aside, why bother even unloading your machine?
Break downs will happen no matter what.
You need to save if you you want to survive!
Also, you need to be like an octopuss...keep as many feet in as many doors as you can.
Best of luck to you....
And never be afraid to ask for help or advice...
:cool:
 

Legdoc

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Oct 6, 2007
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Location
south texas
RLeo, What is the going rate for your size machine? Down south of you the rate is about $80.00-$90.00/Hr for a 20k-30k size machine. I do not know how you can pay for the machine, fuel, maintenance and turn a decent profit! Am I missing something here?
 

R Leo

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Apr 25, 2007
Messages
108
Location
Texas
Am I missing something here?
Yes, the rest of the story is that the machine was paid for in cash (no debt service), I'm renting the haul truck from my father on a per/mile basis (however, I cover all the commercial insurance on the vehicles and the business liability) and I already owned the trailer (it's my big hay trailer). I also have accesss to some really cheap, but good, health insurance through my Bride's retirment plan. I already do all my own maintenance on every other piece of machinery I own, and this dozer won't be any different.

So, technically, you could say that the operation is subsidized.

OTOH, I gave Dad a couple of acres at the farm so they could put up a little house and get away from the Texas coast. I did all the prep and utilities for his place and have built all the porches and stairs for his house so there's some sweat equity I've invested too.

The details:
It's a 9000# machine and from what I can tell, the rate here for a small dozer is anywhere from $50-$75hr. I charge $65/hr with a 4 hr minimum but, that's an old number (last summer), and I'll probably have to go up soon because of fuel. There are a couple of outfits doing dozer work here but all they have are huge machines and their fees are high because of the cost of transporation. My bread and butter will be the 2-3 day job that the big guys can't or won't do.

I'm sure not worried taking any food off their table because, in the beginning when I called them about doing some work for me, it took over 4 weeks to return my call and another 6 to give me a bid. Sounds like they're busy enough to me.
 

Legdoc

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south texas
It sounds like you may be on to something filling a void.You do not have to worry about a CDL. I wish you the best of luck . By the way how did you decide on the d20?
 

R Leo

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Messages
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Location
Texas
It sounds like you may be on to something filling a void.You do not have to worry about a CDL. I wish you the best of luck . By the way how did you decide on the d20?
That's what I'm thinking is that the big operators can't/don't want those jobs that take 1/2 day...however, with fuel prices doing what they're doing, I may have to rethink the hourly rate or come up with a reasonable fee structure for covering the cost of getting the machine to the job that treats both my customer and me fairly.

FWIW, the initial selection of a D20 was based on this:
1) Had to be an affordable machine for me (<$18,000)
2) Must be able to be transported with the existing pick-up/trailer rig that I have (<11000lbs)
3) High parts availability (no Chinese or Indian stuff)
4) Simplicity (no shuttle shift)

I did some web research and determined that Komatsu had the best parts support for small gray-market dozers and, that the -5 was harder to get parts for than the later -6 and -7s. Mistubishis are supposed to be impossible to find parts for, and there weren't any JDs in my price range that weren't totally clapped out. Cats were too expensive and heavy. I chose a direct drive but now, understand that the shuttle shift tranny is just as reliable and more productive. If I did it again, I'd buy a shuttle shift but my D20 will still get most everything done just fine.
 
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