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  1. fliptop10

    Case 580B - Trans oil pressure drops when clutch is pressed

    Brian, You need to throttle down to the lowest level possible before releasing the clutch to move. Unlike a dry clutch that you can "ride" to control movement, this is either on or off. The power comes through the shuttle from the torque converter so the RPM's are the only way to control the...
  2. fliptop10

    Case 580B - Trans oil pressure drops when clutch is pressed

    Brian, I don’t see anything wrong with the operation of your machine. It is a shuttle shift and the clutch peddle will act as a clutch pressure dump and a brake at the same time. Think of it like this...the shuttle is in essence a big clutch pack similar to what is found in an automatic...
  3. fliptop10

    Case 580CK: drain plug for hydraulic system?

    You will find two drain plugs on the inside of each loader frame side near the torque tube. The return line from the filter unit divides in two under the fuel tank and sends the fluid back to each side of the loader frame. Where that return line enters the loader frame is the drain plug. One on...
  4. fliptop10

    69 case 580 seat question

    Dave, When thinking about the seat on your 580CK, there are a number of factors that need to be considered. The original seat was a two piece steel backed cushion and backrest. They were mounted to the seat frame. The seat frame then bolted to the seat mounting channel assembly which would slide...
  5. fliptop10

    Case 580B general machine questions?

    Thank you for the link Tinkerer. So I worried myself half sick trying to figure out if I wanted this project, and my wife TOLD me I was buying it. She said I was foolish to pass it up because it’s cheap for what it is. I agreed and bought it. Pics will be up when I get it home in the next two...
  6. fliptop10

    Case 580B general machine questions?

    Thank you for responses. I truly appreciate it. I feel the power difference without even using the machine for work. Price is fair, and I could probably scrap it and part it out for the price. The pit in my stomach is coming from the fact that I know my 580CK is thoroughly gone through and works...
  7. fliptop10

    Case 580B general machine questions?

    Hi guys, I currently own a 580CK with the 159 gas engine and model 33 loader and hoe. A guy 4 miles from my house is selling a 580B with the 188 diesel and shuttle shift. Appears to be the next generation loader and hoe. Model 34? Anyway, machine starts easy with no starting fluid and purrs...
  8. fliptop10

    1970 580ck Gets her name and surgery

    Xpack, I can break the tires loose in first and second while trying to load a pile of stone or loose dirt. Third and forth I cannot get that to happen. For short runs around my property or just to a neighbors house, third or fourth are great. As soon as I start up a hill, even a low grade, I...
  9. fliptop10

    1970 580ck Gets her name and surgery

    Xpack and kshan, I have read every thread on this forum that has a 580CK in it. I have found that these machines were known to be dogs from the day they were new. Any of the power shuttle machines were great for construction site work, but not for road travel, especially hills. They don't like...
  10. fliptop10

    1970 580ck Gets her name and surgery

    Xpack, I just checked the parts book. There are two listings for the power shuttle, but only one listing for the torque converter. The two shuttles are the A38133 Power Shuttle Clutch Rockford and the A38926 Clutch Twin Disc. The torque converter is A37654 Torque Converter. I have seen a...
  11. fliptop10

    1970 580ck Gets her name and surgery

    Just figured out the design difference after studying it a bit. On the powershuttle models when you depress the clutch, it also depresses the brake. So as the clutch is depressed it uses the T shaped braket to apply pressure to both brake pedals. Wont even matter if the flat steel bar is down...
  12. fliptop10

    1970 580ck Gets her name and surgery

    Here is a pic of my brake pedals. Again, I have a 1967 and its a power shuttle.
  13. fliptop10

    1970 580ck Gets her name and surgery

    Xpack, good call about the model year being different. I have a 1967 and it looks different than both of yours...I will click some picks in the AM and post them. I remember when I had my brake pedals off they looked like they could be reinstalled backwards (wrong pedal on the inside toward the...
  14. fliptop10

    Case 580 CK rear differential way overfull why?

    dad2six, There is a seal. However, it is located between the transmission and the torque tube. So the differential and the transmission both share the heavy weight oil. The torque tube that holds the power shuttle and torque converter has the hy trans fluid. I would pull the transmission...
  15. fliptop10

    1970 580ck Gets her name and surgery

    68, the way these stabilizer arms are built they wouldn't do well with grease fittings for the pins and bushings. They are hollow from the top to the bottom. When I took out my bushings and the spacer I noticed that hollow area was packed full of 48 years worth of dirt and mud. I would think...
  16. fliptop10

    1970 580ck Gets her name and surgery

    Xpack, I reused my pins and used all stock bushings. The loader frame wasn't an issue, but you are absolutely correct about the egg shaped holes in the arms. I did just like you said and used weld to fill the area and then smacked the bushings in. After the bushings were in I actually welded the...
  17. fliptop10

    1970 580ck Gets her name and surgery

    Hey xpack, just, and 68. I used heat to get the pins to finally push out. I actually used a small tip on the Oxy acetylene and burned the bushings out of the backhoe frame and stabilizer arms. With the flame pushing straight into the side of the bushing you can burn right through it without...
  18. fliptop10

    1970 580ck Gets her name and surgery

    Hey xpack. I just did my stabilizer bushings before winter. I ordered all the bushings online from EPS I think. I was able to reuse the pins. I used a rosebud torch to get the loader frame hot enough to get the pins hammered out. Without the heat, they wouldn't move. After the pins were out...
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