Help ID some machines in a photograph

Mother Deuce · Mar 17, 2020

Ronsii said:
Right on MD!!!! I looked last night with the same thought you had but I couldn't find anything... I didn't spend a whole lot of time either...
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LOL... I was called back for tomorrow. I guess they figured we are far enough apart. Working tomorrow, hopefully for a while like the next 4 years!

Ronsii · Mar 17, 2020

We been working, no reason to stop... well we did have that snow day last friday

the boss just went to get tonnage for the dump and dol was closed for virus

RZucker · Mar 17, 2020

Mother Deuce said:
Sooooooo... because I had nothing better to do today besides look up interesting things. In common with Otto Perry the guy who took the picture in 41 is my love for capturing images and I never only take one image.
I usually take 2 or 3. I was sitting here thinking that Otto probably did too. I went in search of another image of that consist and found it with #483 (destroyed in a roundhouse pit accident and scraped for parts) now on the head end and 480 as a helper and a few more tank cars. See it here. The dozers are clearly visible in this angle hit the zoom button in the upper right. Then just click the image it will keep zooming in. Those old large format cameras were great. https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/51769/rec/40 and this one as well,
https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/51869/rec/14

I totally forgot about the scale of those flatcars. the search for different angles was a big help.

Truck Shop · Mar 17, 2020

mitch504 · Mar 18, 2020

Geez, I hate when the time comes once a decade or so to say I was wrong...

Tugger2 · Mar 18, 2020

Id go International on the dozers,looks like the Issacson blade lift which i think was particular to Internationals. Lorain on the shovels ? D8 2u above ?

Nige · Mar 18, 2020

Isn't there some type of "structure" on the same freight car as the dozers.? It seems to go right down to the track frames.
Could they possibly be pipelayers.? Was that type of machine even around in 1941.?

Mother Deuce · Mar 18, 2020

Nige said:
Isn't there some type of "structure" on the same freight car as the dozers.? It seems to go right down to the track frames.
Could they possibly be pipelayers.? Was that type of machine even around in 1941.?

I wondered that too

John C. · Mar 18, 2020

I thought they might have been boom sections for the shovels.

Tugger2 · Mar 19, 2020

I see one shovel front and what looks like a crane boom . Ill bet theres a clam bucket in there. One machine rigged as a shovel ,one as a crane and a clam . With those dozers they look set to build anything . They didnt need much in those days to get things done.

ih100 · Mar 19, 2020

Tugger2 said:
Id go International on the dozers,looks like the Issacson blade lift which i think was particular to Internationals. Lorain on the shovels ? D8 2u above ?

don’t look like International fuel tanks. I’m thinking Allis.

Nige · Mar 19, 2020

This maybe illustrates better what I was talking about. There are three sections of crane boom in the foreground but both tractors seem to have this attachment on them that looks as though it goes right down to the track frame. Both tractors appear to be the same but the feature stands out better on the rear one because the crane boom sections are not obstructing the view. That structure is why I originally thought pipelayer.

Blocker in MS · Mar 19, 2020

Those look like Bucyrus-Erie blades on IH machines. I am sure if they supplied blades to any other manufactures.

RZucker · Mar 19, 2020

Looks like you have the same IH book I have somewhere.
I do believe B-E made universal blades for several crawler makers.

Blocker in MS · Mar 19, 2020

That is a great book!

Tugger2 · Mar 19, 2020

I cant id the crawler for sure , but id say Isaacson for the blade lift . It has the 2 brackets that straddle the track ,one for cylinder mount ,one for the pivot mount to the blade lift link.

Blocker in MS · Mar 20, 2020

RZucker said:
I do believe B-E made universal blades for several crawler makers.

I think you are right, but I do not think I have ever seen a picture of a B-E blade on anything else

old-iron-habit · Mar 23, 2020

1941 was the last year Cat made the 1H and also the first year they made the 8R. It was a mid year shift. On both the fuel tanks while having rounded shoulders to not slope toward the back on top. I think the fuel tanks on the crawlers look like they could be Allis but not that familiar with 1941 and older models.

rayman · Aug 6, 2020

My guess is -2 Northwest cranes,, carbody's first ,2 track frames , in front of the boom sections is a 4 cyl. Murphy engine- while the dozer fuel tanks do look mighty like AC. just my 2c worth.

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