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Gainsborough Loading Shovel M.O.D.

trombeur

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Production Years:- 1958 to 1967
Gainsborough Loading Shovel

Engine:- Leyland AUE 680/20 6 cylinder diesel.

Output:- 145hp


Designed by Daimler for the M.O.D. and manufactured at Britannia Works.

sorry if I disturb you, does anyone know this earth moving vehicle? thanks

Gainsborough shovel built for the MOD It's designed to do everything,
 

Welder Dave

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Designed to do everything but nothing well? Looks like you sit pretty low compared to other loaders. What were they doing with the wheels? Looks like they were trying to set a record for the most bolts on a wheel assembly. The hyd. lines look ready to get ripped off and/or damaged. Only 150 built, maybe Daimler should stick to designing cars.
 

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I think it's an old British military vehicle, I don't know anything else otherwise I wouldn't have allowed myself to disturb you, I was informed by a fan of old earthmoving machines. thanks for your opinions.

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It looks OK for the time period that it was produced. I'm guessing from the photos that the front wheels steered instead of the rears. I'm looking at the clearance between the front wheels and the frame. It doesn't appear to have final drives looking the the flanges on the ends of the axles. The machine is reminiscent of the early Michigan loaders.
 

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I would imagine the ride would be a little rough, and potentially be like a rocking horse at speed. But then it was designed in the 1950's. I wonder what the brakes were like.
 

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Might’ve only had them on the back axle. Bucket would have been the fronts.
 

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thanks for your comments and comments. it is clear that this is a military vehicle suitable for the needs of the time and conceived with the technical knowledge of the time with the obvious construction gaps, perhaps it has the mechanical transmission like a tractor, I would not know how to give technical characteristics




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British built Marshall Gainsborough wheeled earthmover tractor which first entered service in the early 1950s. This interesting model has a armoured cab fitted so could have destined for Northern Ireland in the early days of the troubles or possibly used as a trials and experimental job
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Les

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thanks for the clarification, I think but it is only a supposition that at that time the first earth moving machines were derived from agricultural machines, therefore very rudimentary, not very functional, slow awkward in maneuvers, not very powerful and with little performance, if they had mechanical transmission then the tractor or a truck. I'm wrong? hydraulics have made the earth moving machines faster and more agile and with a better performance also for the benefit of the operator who operates them. at that time, maneuvering an earth moving machine was like doing tax with a rowing machine, stressful and tiring. better new technologies and modern innovations without a doubt.


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Hi don’t know whether this thread is still being watched but only just discovered this site.. I was an Army apprentice POM Plant Operator Mechanic in the Royal Engineers at Chepstow 69-71, then Chattenden (near Chatham) our, main trading area at the time. We has the Gainsborough, per the comment it pitched when driving.. it had a pre-select gearbox as one of its distinctive features, so much different to operate, and a tiny bucket for the size of the machine, I recall they mostly had a dozer blade fitted, fitting the massive boom to swap to a bucket was difficult, I don’t remember what we used to’crane’ it..never saw one after training, but as always the new equipment was working with the squadrons.. and I just remembered, I saw a photo of one with the RAF airfield construction squadrons from the 60s, so I would be confident that the Army inherited them with the Airfields role, late 60s. our main machines were the Michigan 75. DS dual steer which seemed to be indestructible. Very similar to a Bray..through the 70’s our main machines were the Allis Chalmers 645 which again were very reliable, I was in an ‘airfields’ squadron, we had the Michigan 275 a big beast for the big jobs. Our small loaders were the Muir Hill A5000, with,2,4 and crab steering.. we had to swap buckets to forks on these, pins were too tight,. Very difficult and slow to swap unless you got very lucky.
 

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These are RAF photos, remembering again, we had the Blaw Knox mechanical grader, I remember an hydraulic or steering pump exploded came through the cab floor injuring the operator.. we also had an Aveling Austin smaller 4 wheel grader that had handle bars rather than a steering wheel, fully hydraulic, which was simple compared to the BK.. also in the pics, I think the dozer may have been a Fowler Chalkenger 33, mk4 (amazing the xxx you remember) that we must also have inherited too. The Michy 75 non DS. and back to the Gainsborough, had a CCU per photo, I think it was expected to pull a Vickers Onions scraper ..
 

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Great photos and interesting story, Ian - thanks for posting, many of us are interested in "junky old machines" as my wife would say! :)

That Gainsborough looks like something designed by an Army officer with very little machinery or earthmoving experience, it's amazing the oddball products produced by U.K. manufacturers.

Did you have any Aveling-Barford machines? They seemed to turn up regularly in odd places.
So much of the U.K.-built stuff was unreliable, and placed no emphasis on driveability and operator layout.
 

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Great photos and interesting story, Ian - thanks for posting, many of us are interested in "junky old machines" as my wife would say! :)

That Gainsborough looks like something designed by an Army officer with very little machinery or earthmoving experience, it's amazing the oddball products produced by U.K. manufacturers.

Did you have any Aveling-Barford machines? They seemed to turn up regularly in odd places.
So much of the U.K.-built stuff was unreliable, and placed no emphasis on driveability and operator layout.

Great photos and interesting story, Ian - thanks for posting, many of us are interested in "junky old machines" as my wife would say! :)

That Gainsborough looks like something designed by an Army officer with very little machinery or earthmoving experience, it's amazing the oddball products produced by U.K. manufacturers.

Did you have any Aveling-Barford machines? They seemed to turn up regularly in odd places.
So much of the U.K.-built stuff was unreliable, and placed no emphasis on driveability and operator layout.
 

Ian coombs

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Yes Ozdozer we did have Aveling barford dump trucks.. apologies for the poor quality.. a photo of a poor quality photo I took.. know what you mean about reliability but these trucks were really robust, we used them in this configuration all the time with our gear on a tilt trailer, sorry I can’t remember the make.. on the back a Muir Hill A5000 as mentioned previously, usually had a cab on and usually fitted with a backhoe which added weight to the back..also had winches fitted but I don’t remember ever seeing one used..

The trucks max speed was about 45mph, occasionally there would be a governor problem, then you may get near 50 mph.the trucks were also fitted with high sides for our role in RRR rapid runway repair..full of aggregate, you had to tip reasonably slowly, not easy for young soldiers.. will find other pics of these and other military plant and trucks..
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