Vancouver Island, BC. Logging at its Best!

camptramp said:

Dave Whiskin Collection Timberwest HBO Div. #40-96 P16 Pacific Pulling a load up "Jack Shaft Summit" . This is a long and fairly step grade from Loop Creek bridge to the Summit well over a Kilometer long . On a hot day with a heavy load , the dust would pass the truck . When it was first built in about 1983 the camp Engineer figured he saved about $22, 000.00 on explosives by leaving a couple of pitchs a little on the steep side . The Master Mechanic figured it cost about $50,000.00 in drive line parts . The grade was beginning to be known as 'Jack Shaft Summit" . One Morning a friend and I were heading out to the Woods early . There is a Rock Face in front of the truck in picture . We pulled our trucks up to the rock face and stood on the radiators of our HDX'sView attachment 215317 View attachment 215318 View attachment 215319 , then with Light Blue paint wrote in letters as big as we could "Jack Shaft Summit" . The name stuck . The grade on that piece of road has been cut down two times before that picture was taken .

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camptramp said:

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Blk prince said:

Someone call my name? Shake the tree and guess what falls out. Haha. Yep,still around. Doing well. Looks as if you gents are doing well. At least I hope you are

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camptramp said:

Good to know . Bin awhile since the last load of logs went over the "Brow Log" , the last load of "Pebbles" has met the same fate . When this latest social set back passes over we'll have to get together for coffee . Take care Bp stay healthy .

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camptramp said:

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By the look of the front end of the #40-96 , it looks like it has been pushing the lowbed .

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Welder Dave said:

Is that steam or smoke from the brakes and why only on the trailer?

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camptramp said:

Yes that is steam coming off trailer brakes . The #40-96 P16 Pacific came with a V12 natural Detroit Diesel engine with an Alison 6 speed power shift transmission with a built in drive line retarter . In the late 1990's the truck was repowered with a signature 600 Cummins engine Equipped with an engine Jake Brake . So when this picture was taken this truck had lots of braking in it .
The water to cool brakes feature starts with a water tank behind drivers cab . a water line comes out the bottom of water tank on drivers side , a hose runs up to the cab floor by door side of drivers seat , there is a main pipe that has a dump valve built into it which then goes to a "T" , on the front side of the "T" is a water valve that controls the water flow to the truck brakes , an elbow in the pipe sends the pipe down through the floor to the truck brakes . A pipe goes to the back side of "T" with a water valve that controls the flow of the water to the trailer brakes goes to an elbow and down through the floor to the trailer brakes . There is an air shut off valve and a gauge under dash to set air pressure to water tank to push water to trailer that is usually higher than truck going down steep hills . As there is a hand valve to set air pressure to trailer brakes , the driver can use more braking on trailer than truck . And by using the Retarter and or Jake Brake the driver uses less truck brakes . So Dave is using lots of trailer brakes and minimal truck brakes . Its interesting that the water nipples or spouts spray the water across the brake drum from the inside to the outside , as the brake drums are slightly tapered , the water that stays on the brake drum is pulled back to the inside of brake drum and runs on the ground inside of tires .

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Welder Dave said:

Thanks for the explanation. How many hours or miles will one of the off road trucks go with reasonable maintainence and a good driver?

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camptramp said:

That's a good question . The HDX Hayes was a very good truck not very many Off Highway Log Truck drivers got a new Logging Truck . That honor usually went to one of the senior drivers , who often got more than one new truck in their career . As a junior driver I got the #222 at BC Forest Products at Renfrew Div. in 1981 , I'm sure the Speed o meter worked when it was new . But that was in 1962 , I can't remember the hours on the hour meter , but it may have been changed over the years . I hauled its last load of logs in fall of 1982 . There was nothing wrong with the truck , some newer and bigger log trucks had come available from some other BCFP camps that had been shut down . The #222 was used around camp to move (Fire) water tanks and trailers for a couple of years then a water tank was mounted on the back and it was used for Fire Protection . Last I heard of it , it was owned by IPL and still running . The HDX Hayes , P16 Pacific , 849 & 850 Kenworths as was the Challenger all had "I" Beam frames . Excluding a major mishap that caused the frame to be badly bent , these trucks just kept going . As times changed in the Forest Industry some perfectly good Log Tucks were victim's of a major break down , lose an engine or major component , the next thing you know other parts were taken off it to keep a similar truck running .
In the bigger operations I think the accountants had a lot to say about how long a logging trucks productive life was . After it was written off and a new Log Truck was budgeted to replace it , most of the old off highway log trucks were repurposed as Water Trucks , Rock Trucks , Sand Truck or as a Linehorse .
Just an after thought . the #40-96 P16 Pacific was the newest Off Highway in HBO in was built in August 1980 these pictures were taken in 2001 and I think it is still running !

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Welder Dave said:

I thought Pacific's had rectangular box tube frames but maybe not all models?

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