Williamsmith
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I have cut hydraulic filter apart
It had no metallic shavings but it did look as if there were brass flakes in it
It had no metallic shavings but it did look as if there were brass flakes in it
That may be related to the lack of drive on one side, or to the main hydraulic pump, or both.Usually see brass from the slipper shoes of the pumps or motors. About the only places I can think of that you'd get brass from.
Ok so I checked the tank and it was still over the filter. I fitted a new charge pump, fired it up and oil pissed out the drive hose for the right hand side. Of course these are the WORSE hoses ever invented to change so I had to pull the drive motor out to get to the fittings and even then it was a complete PITA ... Got them out, fitted new hoses , tested system and no leaks, drive is back. Now I will flush the entire system, change the filter, fill with new oil and get back to digging.
If I ever meet the CAT engineer who designed the drive motor hose locations and hook up I am gunna beat him ... and for anyone who says they can replace the main drive hoses on a 287B without pulling the drive motor, I would pay $$$ to see that happen as I don't think it is possible.....
Part Numbers used in case it helps someone else are :
Machine 2006 CAT 287B Ser: ZSA03469
220-8127 : Charge Pump @ $1066.88
218-6637 : Lower @ $347.42
218-6638 : Upper @ 358.59
1G-8878 : Hydraulic Filter @$63.67
3096931 : Oil Hydro 10 5 Gal Buckets @$106.66 ea ( 5 Gal Test : 14: 7 Gal for full system )
Now all that being said I still don't completely understand where all the oil came from so have convinced my self the mud and crap was collecting it and the hose was just enough to push it all out and make a bigger mess than what i though. I stopped the machine quick enough ( Charge pump died quick enough ) that the full tank did not drain and created the confusion
Anyway, hopefully that helps anyone who happens to have a similar issue.
I ended up buying a Service Manual as a down load file online which was more of a complete dump out of CAT Software than a Repair Manual but if anyone else needs it I am happy to share so you can save the $$$$ , it was over 200 MB so it aint small and it did have a lot of handy info but is somewhat confusing to use lol
10w at -30 does not make for a happy skidsteer. We use 0w20 in most of the machines that work in those temps. The controls get sluggish with 10w.
Standard fill for us year round TDTO 0W-20.
Mobiltech / 92U 3406 - What brand of 0W-20 are you using in your cold weather applications?
I am looking to change the oil in my hydraulic system on my 2008 CAT 242B and would like to be good for -30 or -35 C.
I see that the CAT Hydro Advanced 10 is specified for a pour point of -39 C. The spec for the original CAT Hydro 10 was a pour point of -30 to -33 C. But as you said, the controls get sluggish with the 10W ... and perhaps pour point is not that great of an indicator for real life conditions.
Just looked up CAT TDTO Cold Weather 0W-20 ... is has a pour point of -54 C.