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2004 International 7300

Willie B

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Probably not much heavier. But I don't like the basic brake controllers that are just on or off. This one senses the air pressure and applies the trailer brakes proportionally.
I've had several styles. Current one increases trailer brake the longer brake lights stay on. Others have had a pendulum to increase braking based on how steep the hill is.
 

colson04

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Be VERY careful working under that elevated box!

Thanks, I use a prop when working under the raised box

There is a HEF member that was working underneath a truck that had a slightly raised bed. He cracked a hydraulic line or valve while he was using his other hand to prop himself against the frame. Bed came down and crushed his fingers. This happened within the last couple years, 2019 or 2020 maybe. Definitely use a prop everytime the bed is up.
 

Steve Frazier

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There is a HEF member that was working underneath a truck that had a slightly raised bed. He cracked a hydraulic line or valve while he was using his other hand to prop himself against the frame. Bed came down and crushed his fingers. This happened within the last couple years, 2019 or 2020 maybe. Definitely use a prop everytime the bed is up.

A number of years ago a local contractor was doing the same thing except he was leaning over the frame rails. I know several members of the fire department and they said it was the most gruesome sight they had ever dealt with. Left a family behind.

I stress this over and over with my crew, NEVER allow yourself under anything suspended by hydraulics. You can't undo the damage done by a moment of carelessness.
 

Keith Merrell

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There is a HEF member that was working underneath a truck that had a slightly raised bed. He cracked a hydraulic line or valve while he was using his other hand to prop himself against the frame. Bed came down and crushed his fingers. This happened within the last couple years, 2019 or 2020 maybe. Definitely use a prop everytime the bed is up.

Wow that's a shame. Did he lose his fingers? Or just crush them badly?
 

materthegreater

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I really don't think you need to cut both lines and install a double check valve. The two delivery ports are one for rear axle application and one for steer axle and trailer application. I have installed a few air over electric controllers using the rear axle application line to activate them. If you had a trailer air service line then that is the one you would connect it to.
Normally the trailer emergency air goes to operate the pintle plunger. You should be safe tapping into the air that releases the rear park brake chambers.

Be VERY careful working under that elevated box!

Since the brake controller will be in the cab, it makes sense to tie into the brake circuit close to the treadle valve I assume. Here's a picture of the valve. I'm not sure which line to tie into. Any suggestions?
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materthegreater

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Ok, today I got the brake controller wired and plumbed. But I'm either a complete idiot and connected something wrong or I'm not understanding the purpose of the check valve. Or maybe both!

When I apply the brake, the controller activates like it should, but with the check valve in the line, the built up pressure can't escape when I release the pedal, and the trailer brakes stay activated. It seems like there shouldn't be a check valve in the line, and then the pressure in the line to the controller can bleed off along with the pressure in the service brake lines.

Can someone set me straight on this?
 

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I like that setup. Short, maneuverable. Something like that would work well for me.

Do you have a plow for the front of the truck?


Yeah, just a one way plow. Isn't much good for plowing driveways. I'm hoping to find an all angle plow for it at some point, or put some fisher push plates on it for my XV2

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materthegreater

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It didn't come with a check valve. It said to use a two way check valve but you had suggested that I could just use the delivery line for the rear brakes since this truck doesn't have trailer air. The instructions say to use a regular check valve on older trucks with a single air system so I just plugged one of the inlet ports on the double check valve. But then I had the problem with it just accumulating air pressure in the controller line. I took out the check valve altogether yesterday and it works fine without it. I just can't comprehend why they call for a check valve in a single air system. I guess it would probably work properly with the double check valve if my truck had trailer air that I tied into as well.
 
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