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Grader operator shot at

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A buddy of mine told me about a grader operator doing snow removal in a John Deere grader was shot at by some guy with road rage in Grand Prairie Alberta, there's pictures of the grader on face book, I hope the operator is ok, what is this world coming to.
 

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There’s a little more to the story than that. The grader and the shooting suspect’s vehicle collided, upon which the driver of the vehicle hit by the grader exited the vehicle and shot at the grader. The driver of the vehicle has since been found and arrested.
 

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There’s a little more to the story than that. The grader and the shooting suspect’s vehicle collided, upon which the driver of the vehicle hit by the grader exited the vehicle and shot at the grader. The driver of the vehicle has since been found and arrested.
Apparently the operator is all right, was taken to the hospital to be checked out, glad they found the shooter.
 

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I have had shovels, brooms, ice scrapers, middle fingers, and many choice words thrown at me, but never bullets. And not to upset the late Mr Heston, but......... Assuming the driver had no mental issues, he was pissed, and fired a weapon in a moment of rage. Perhaps he regrets what happens but perhaps not. It could have been worse, and someone would be dead. There are those who would argue that if the grader man had a gun to he could defend himself, or maybe it would be worse, and one shot fired becomes 10. If there was no gun in the first place, and I am unaware of any instance in Canada where we can carry a weapon that is not under lock and key, there would be no fired in the first place. Not trying to start a gun debate
 

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Well what ever happened never should there be shots fired in rage, as a operator working for the government out in the public you just don't know that somebody is at there breaking point for what ever reason and may have nothing to do with you what's so ever, also I find that tax payers think for some reason that they are your boss when you operate a government piece of equipment and are allowed to vent at you even if you have no control in decision your supervisor made, this happens a lot more then you think and puts operators at risk.
 

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I think that movie with the kids and the snow plow operator ruined it for a lot of us.
 

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There are those who would argue that if the grader man had a gun to he could defend himself, or maybe it would be worse, and one shot fired becomes 10.

I believe there were 5 bullet holes in the cab when all was said and done. It's another case of a nut job on the loose if you ask me.
 

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I believe there were 5 bullet holes in the cab when all was said and done. It's another case of a nut job on the loose if you ask me.

I agree. Would certainly make an operator's emotions run the full range wouldn't it.....
 

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A person who shoots at a grader operator while doing his job is crazy. I'd expect this person to have done crazy things before. Is there not law prohibiting violent criminals from owning guns? I'd bet somebody dropped the ball before if this nut has guns.

My record is clean, and in VT that's all you need. I still had to get a photo driver's license before I could buy one.
 

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This guy should be charged with attempted murder if there's 5 holes in the cab! A few years ago a guy, I think in the Grand prairie region, was in trouble for chasing after guys that stole his quad. I think he fired a warning shot but if you're trying to steal someone's property is different than shooting at someone doing their job.
 

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A person who shoots at a grader operator while doing his job is crazy. I'd expect this person to have done crazy things before. Is there not law prohibiting violent criminals from owning guns? I'd bet somebody dropped the ball before if this nut has guns.

My record is clean, and in VT that's all you need. I still had to get a photo driver's license before I could buy one.

The more laws we enact to restrict guns the more nut cases will have guns.

Not picking on cutting edge at all. So in Canada a person that's carrying a gun is a criminal and possibly the craziest nut case ever. Who's going to control him since he knows no one else is carrying? Again, not trying to start an argument. Just trying to get a grip on this.

Sometimes you gotta be the craziest one in the Bar fight.
 

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If he had a weapon, he was out for trouble for sure, and I would never diss an American's rite to carry, but we can't, and there were more gun deaths in Chicago than in all of Canada. I understand the gun issue can be very personal for some so I'm not gonna open that can of worms. If it was me I probably would have tried to run him over, so I guess killed by gun or grader same difference
 

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The more laws we enact to restrict guns the more nut cases will have guns.

Not picking on cutting edge at all. So in Canada a person that's carrying a gun is a criminal and possibly the craziest nut case ever. Who's going to control him since he knows no one else is carrying? Again, not trying to start an argument. Just trying to get a grip on this.

Sometimes you gotta be the craziest one in the Bar fight.
My argument is that the laws are in place now. In USA we have at least restrictions on people who have displayed violent behavior. Other states are far more restrictive. Enforcing the existing laws in any of 50 states, odds are this psycho would not possess a gun.

I strongly believe those of us able to control our actions should carry guns as a deterrent to crime. I'm a big advocate of laser sights. They make most of us more accurate, enable us to defend ourselves at night, and are a Hell of a deterrent to crime.

Were I engaging in criminal activity, and see that red dot, I would leave in a hurry. Crisis averted!
 

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We've had some of the toughest gun laws in the world for twenty years now.
They have effectively put a stop to the nutcases who carry out senseless mass shootings.
Hardened crims can still get whatever they want but they mostly shoot one another so no great loss.
It is pretty rare to see a store robbed at gunpoint these days, they have been largely reduced to using a machete or lump of pipe.
 
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