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[unimog]

I would think any modern machine would shut itself off when oil pressure was lost. THen again I would also think someone would be smart enough to shut it off after doing a face plant.

 

[jimmyjack]

u can't teach common sense:Banghead

 

[Tigerotor77W]

I would think any modern machine would shut itself off when oil pressure was lost. THen again I would also think someone would be smart enough to shut it off after doing a face plant.

Sometimes, though, the engine won't turn off -- it'll just keep belching smoke burned from the oil injested into the engine.

 

[bobcat ron]

ASV's rubber is softer than the "others", the "others" use a harder rubber that lasts longer BUT, they need to spin their tracks more to get the same traction that ASV gets with even less spinning, that's why that ASV was pushing that T250 in the snow.
If that was done on pavement, the ASV would not move, but the intense grip wouldn't even let the Bobcat push the ASV anywhere, the Bobcat would just sit there and stall.
The older ASV undercarriages were a freaking nightmare to clean and maintain, but now that CAT is behind ASV with 23% ownership, the undercarriages last longer and are much easier to clean and replace individual parts.

With that said, the ASV tracks will tear and shred just as easily, IF you put a real "nutt behind the butt", the kind of guy that has only ever operated a SSL with tires, first time you throw this idiot in an ASV equipped machine his first words will be "Dude, this thing is a friggin' tank......" and it won't last long.
The operator has to use the machine as though it is a loader with rubber tires, always keep and eye out for obstacles that can tear open a rubber tire and don't get carried away and bury the tracks in rock and gravel larger than 3 inches in size.

I just bought my 247 MTL Cat this past week and I know I have to really change my habits and styles of operating, but I'll never go back to Bobcat or any rigid frame CTL ever again, the vibrations just kill me at the end of the day, the ASV is a real reward for all the years I've had to put up with the vibrations, but it will come with a price, but I'm independently wealthy and everything I own is paid for.

I did a real sweet comparison between CAT and my T190 on another "certain" site, but some weird rule doesn't allow me to post the link.

 

[digger242j]

I did a real sweet comparison between CAT and my T190 on another "certain" site, but some weird rule doesn't allow me to post the link.

With a few clicks of the mouse, you could copy it and paste it in here.

 

[bobcat ron]

I'd need a better excuse.

 

[digger242j]

Your call. :beatsme

 

[bobcat ron]

I'll make a separate thread on it, there's still some more items I left out, like under the cab.

 

[unimog]

Sometimes, though, the engine won't turn off -- it'll just keep belching smoke burned from the oil injested into the engine.

True, the run away situation where the engine runs ungoverned on the lube oil. I wonder if that happened? Then the only way to shut it off is to block the intake or exhaust.

 

[HeyUvaVT]

We use an RC100 for mulching brush with a Loftness head...had the machine for over a year..have the forestry kit..no complaints at all...check my other posts for pics..

 

[KSSS]

The 440 tracked machine is an animal as is the wheeled machine. You will not lack for power. The fuel consumption is also reasonable considering the power that it has.

 

[GeeVee]

Absolutely worthless comparisons

I viewed the video of the two machines on ice pulling on each other.

What a waste of time that was, and then, a bunch of you feel that it proved something?

Once either machine got its tracks spinning, it was going to be going the other way in a hurry. The machine was easily more "draggable" once the tracks were spinning.

Testing tracked machines as I have, in the field, under the conditions you expect to use them in, is relevant.

Next time I intend to engage in a tractor pull. I know I'll buy the white one-

 

[bobcat ron]

I viewed the video of the two machines on ice pulling on each other.

What a waste of time that was, and then, a bunch of you feel that it proved something?

Once either machine got its tracks spinning, it was going to be going the other way in a hurry. The machine was easily more "draggable" once the tracks were spinning.

Testing tracked machines as I have, in the field, under the conditions you expect to use them in, is relevant.

Next time I intend to engage in a tractor pull. I know I'll buy the white one-

That vid was shot to prove the ASV advantage over the CTL tracks, the machine (ASV) actually weighs far less than the Bobcat, so technically, it shouldn't be able to push it at all, but the superior traction system on the ASV allows to to out push any CTL in the slime.

 

[GeeVee]

Not picking fights here Ron, though my last post was strongly worded. Beg pardons.

Pushing the Bobcat while its tracks were not spinning might have been a test.

 

[bobcat ron]

No problems, A better test would be on dry pavement, then the Bobcat could certainly out push the ASV, but with a lot of effort though as the ASV still has more rubber on the ground.

I left a comment behind like that on that vid on YouTube some time ago and it was mysteriously "removed".

 

[Cory]

I can tell you that nothing pushes soft sand like an ASV.

I do a lot of beach renourishment. The ASV payloads and pushes three times the bucket capacity up 3:1 slopes all day. Other machines in side by side couldn't even payload through the transition let alone climb the same slope with a load. Pushing? forget it.
This would be fine silica, round, with difficult lock up.

A cat 277, 287, 297 will all run right along with any asv

 

[stuvecorp]

We saw the new color scheme for ASV at the Minnesota Green Expo. They had a 30, 60 and I think a 70 or 85? in the new colors and they looked real sharp. I know it dosen't help to push dirt better but it would look real cool on the trailer heading to the job.

 

[bobcat ron]

A cat 277, 287, 297 will all run right along with any asv

My 247 isn't happy unless it's buried in 4 feet of sand.

 

[IowaCat08]

My 247 isn't happy unless it's buried in 4 feet of sand.

The 247 is a versatile little machine, had it on rent once and loved it.

 

[bobcat ron]

Yeah it pushes better than the heavier 257 due to less weight.