Best Place to Buy Hydraulic Hoses?

[1968 Case 580CK]

Blueboy.......hey, they would fit perfectly and replace the rusty old metal ones....and I wouldnt have to sand and paint them. Will have to check the price on these puppies.

Oh.....you must be dropping in on Christ Church New Zealand on your way to Thialand.

 

[bobbyblades]

i went to napa they cost me more than getting from coleman equip and 3500 lb rated hose compared to 4200 lb fire resist hose from case

 

[bshields]

Jess- Look up Surplus supply hydraulics- those guys have supper prices- I think you just found your supplier.....brian

 

[Blueboy]

Sorry for intruding on 1968 Case 580CK’s post but I felt it was necessary to give you guys a heads up.

The only reason I am writing this is because of what I wrote before (#52). I did another round of boiling my oil. All was good until I heated about 1 1/2 gallons of oil that I knew had some standing water in it. I had a couple quart cups catching the oil dripping out of some leaky cylinders BUT it caught some rain water as well. I didn’t think it would be a problem but it was! As it was heating up it started popping and as it got hotter it popped harder, almost blowing the lid off. (I put the lid on to contain the oil splashing out) So like an idiot I kept it going and it seemed to be done, the color looked good, I swirled the pot around and just as I stepped back It let loose one huge pop and splashed 250 deg oil 7 feet in the air. Only the good Lord kept me from getting burned!!! Apparently there was still some water at the bottom of the pot. Needless to say if I know the oil has standing water in it, I will NOT boil it out!

I missed recording the last big one but you can get an idea of how bad it can get.
https://youtu.be/M9sn9aEPp98

 

[davo727]

Thanks for the warning on the oil heating. You know its dangerous now and hopefully nobody gets hurt trying to do that. Need a setup that is maybe electrically heated where the process could be controlled remotely where you weren't any where near the oil while it was hot.

 

[kshansen]

Make one wonder how much saving money on new oil is worth? Also have to wonder how many of the additives in the old oil have been effected by the water? Before doing this and risking getting burned with hot oil, starting a fire when hot oil sprays on to heater, and the possibility that the additive package in the oil has been destroyed I think I'd be shopping around for the cheapest no name oil to run in it to flush things out. Then if there is still some moisture left in the system work it good and hard to get the oil temp up to 250º to boil out the moisture. Then do what ever is needed to be sure the water stays out.

For some idea of what can happen if oil erupts from water while heating check out the "Turkey Frying Fails"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXESqkUf2IU

 

[1968 Case 580CK]

Blueboy.......Wow! Glad you did not get burned, as that could have been a real nasty situation you had going on. Now everyone knows to keep the boiling rig set up outside someplace and 20 feet away from any living critter.

 

[1968 Case 580CK]

Maybe thats how ole Frank Perdue lost all his hair........deep frying his chickens. ha ha.

 

[jpeters]

I order my hose in bulk and fittings from wbc industrial. They carry gates. About half price what they sell them for at Napa. My 580c has mostly jic fittings but the swing cylinders have o-ring boss where they attach to the swing cylinders. The local shop crimps the hoses for free.

 

[1968 Case 580CK]

I order my hose in bulk and fittings from wbc industrial. They carry gates. About half price what they sell them for at Napa. My 580c has mostly jic fittings but the swing cylinders have o-ring boss where they attach to the swing cylinders. The local shop crimps the hoses for free.

jpeters.....wish I had known before I spent a ton replacing most of my lines....but I may try them when I start rebuilding the backhoe. Thanks for the info.

 

[1968 Case 580CK]

Custom Modification to the 580CK hydraulic drain plugs:
I put a valve on each side, with a brass cover cap. This way I can drain some of the moisture out of the hydraulic tanks w/o removing the plug and fighting to put the plug in with a gusher of fluid pouring out. Maybe a good way to hook-up an IV if the old Case gets really weak, and needs a fast fill of fluid.

 

[Blueboy]

Your project is coming along nice. Good idea installing a drain valve. Except, the rubber washer might not last against the hydraulic oil. You might want to use a draincock. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Campbell-Hausfeld-3-8-in-NPT-Draincock-GR001500AJ/202796136

 

[carogator]

Buy a roll or box of hose from a supplier and what fittings you need in the reusables. Never buy fittings again. They screw together wiwth a couple wrenches and a vise. I learned that from our local electrical coop that uses a lot of equipment.

 

[1968 Case 580CK]

Blueboy......Hey, thanks for the thumbs-up. I tell you, the temps are climbing (today about 100), and its taking more and more discipline to keep rolling on this old Case. Plus, I parked it on asphalt and in the hot sun with no shade trees around (unless you call an old Uhaul truck a shade tree....well, after 6pm, I do get shade from the truck).....and Im hoping to have her running soon so I can drive her to cooler climates under a tree.

Drain valve.....well, if the rubber washer begins to fail, I also have the brass cap to hold back the fluid. Next time, maybe I can try to find a draincock to fit it......I did not even think about that......yep, that would have been the way to go.

 

[1968 Case 580CK]

Buy a roll or box of hose from a supplier and what fittings you need in the reusables. Never buy fittings again. They screw together wiwth a couple wrenches and a vise. I learned that from our local electrical coop that uses a lot of equipment.

Carogator.....Yep....Im learning as I go....just a rookie here. I might try that when I start rebuilding the backhoe to the tractor.

 

[kshansen]

Your project is coming along nice. Good idea installing a drain valve. Except, the rubber washer might not last against the hydraulic oil. You might want to use a draincock. http://www.homedepot.com/p/Campbell-Hausfeld-3-8-in-NPT-Draincock-GR001500AJ/202796136

That would work but my preference is a ball valve with a pipe plug in the outlet, 1/4 turn on and off.

 

[Baleburner]

Reusable fittings are not 100% reliable and should only be used if absolutely necessary.

 

[Fatjay]

I got all my new hoses from a local shop, http://www.clarkindustrialsupply.com/. I took my old hoses in said I needed 6 of this, 2 of that, 2 of that, and 1 of each of those. Guy said no problem, give me 10-15min. Disappeared into the back and 10min later reappeared with 10 shiny new hoses, rated 4500psi-5300psi, for $535. It was a bit more than I wanted to spend, but it was done on the spot while I waited and the guys knew what htey were doing, more so than me, so I guess I paid for their experience.

Everything went on nicely. I still ahve a leak from the spool valve, I think I cut the u-cup on install, but it's no where near as bad as it was before.

 

[kshansen]

I know $535 is not pocket change for most but for that pile of hoses I think you got a bargain! Looks like possibly AeroQuip Match-Mate Plus hose. Should out last the rest of the machine if installed and secured to prevent rubbing.

 

[Fatjay]

Theya re good hoses, rated way over what the machine is rated for. They should be good forever. The only thing I regret is not replacing the rest of the hoses, but $$$. Considering it's a personal machine for yard work and not a work machine that makes me a living, the wife was calling me about the price before I even got home. I told her i wanted to do it right and do it once and not have to worry about it again. She reluctantly agree'd, she's pretty on board with the whole do what you need to bit, thankfully.