Who made the worst grading dozer?

[JFoshee]

Worst i ran was a dresser td7. Best one cat d3

I agree. I have owned a D31, Case 450, and currently a TD7H Dresser. The dresser is the hardest to finish grade with. Very strong machine and in good condition. I love it. But very hard to grade with. Any of the newer model machines, Cat K series or Case K series , are easier to finish grade with in my opinion.

 

[Shimmy1]

I agree. I have owned a D31, Case 450, and currently a TD7H Dresser. The dresser is the hardest to finish grade with. Very strong machine and in good condition. I love it. But very hard to grade with. Any of the newer model machines, Cat K series or Case K series , are easier to finish grade with in my opinion.

I'm just curious because I've never ran a Dresser. What makes them difficult? Balance, hydraulics, visibility? Once again just curious so if I ever need to run one.

 

[Mountainmover]

I always seemed to have trouble with certain dresser dozers. aggravating to work on....odd feeling in controls.
Some of the older case dozers were weird.
Some older john deere dozers weree too light...but ran great.

Odd that someone mentioned M series Cat. I know that finger tip steering is a different feel than regular larger levers or the diff steer and hydrostat controls..but are the dozers that bad? I am not arguing,,,maybe they are? I had good luck with running a few..and the high track design was easy to work on. I have actually thought about buying a cat d5m for economy and long term maintenance ease. Also for durability. I usually keep machines for a long time. I like the hot new hystats but when they get lots of hours on them...what will the pumps cost? And they are kinda light machines...good for finish grade and loose dirt....
Please educate me on the m series flaws. Maybe I shouldnt buy one?
But for the money..and reasons listed above and the prices...it seems as though the d5m would get a lot of work done over a d5g or d5k. And last longer. It just wont have smooth fine hystat controls....

Thanks

 

[Mountainmover]

I also hated that odd clutch deal on 450b dozers. I have one actually. Tough popular dozers no doubt....but seemed to be best for logging.....not fine grading.....in my opinion

 

[mekon]

Mountainmover.This is just my opinion,but visibility is poor and the steering clutches are not smooth.

 

[13khart]

Went from a new JD750j LGP to a Cat D6k.
The D6k was horrible. Uncomfortable and low power.

 

[Bluetop Man]

Stripped CAT D4G regular pad was the worst. It was light and would beat the living daylights out of an operator who didn't understand how to use the decelerator pedal.

Nonetheless, it was tough as a railway spike and legendary at TL James Co. on urban jobs for the ability to grade out in tight quarters.

Then for our own use, we bought a D4G regular pad equipped with a winch and 300-lb. counterweight mounted under the engine. The difference was like night and day. It was like driving a Cadillac. I never ran a dozer that smooth before. All the jumping around and bouncing was gone. Ground pressure is nearly the same as a regular pad D3. I'm calling the D4 rigged out as described above the most stable grading dozer ever made to date.

 

[LDK]

Stripped CAT D4G regular pad was the worst. It was light and would beat the living daylights out of an operator who didn't understand how to use the decelerator pedal.

Nonetheless, it was tough as a railway spike and legendary at TL James Co. on urban jobs for the ability to grade out in tight quarters.

Then for our own use, we bought a D4G regular pad equipped with a winch and 300-lb. counterweight mounted under the engine. The difference was like night and day. It was like driving a Cadillac. I never ran a dozer that smooth before. All the jumping around and bouncing was gone. Ground pressure is nearly the same as a regular pad D3. I'm calling the D4 rigged out as described above the most stable grading dozer ever made to date.

Hi Bluetop Man, How was that counter weight fitted under the engine, was it fixed to the belly plates?
Russ