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Moving a Cat 15 miles

Welder Dave

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No rollback here. I need to go out and look at the truck to see what's on the back. It has air for trailer brakes but I can't get that kind of trailer.
 

John Shipp

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I saw the bluetooth controllers but they are pricey. I need to look at the truck and see what all it has as far as hook up for lights and stuff. Trailer shop could probably get me a good deal on a brake controller or maybe even have a used one.

I talked to one place about moving it and the guy said it was too long for their deck truck so would need a trailer for $15 more per hour at $190.00. Then he said the worst part is there is currently an 18% fuel surcharge that will likely go up to 20-22% if fuel keeps going up in price. He guessed about 4 hours. With another 5% GST on top would be close to $1000 to move it. Yikes!
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What would the trailer shop charge you to fit one similar to this one? Instead of paying for the one move, pay to get your trailer brakes hooked up - would your truck/trailer combo comfortably move your loader if it had the brakes connected? Cheers
 

bam1968

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$1000 to move a 931 15 miles?? Holy Crap!! Just load her up early on a sunday morning and take it easy. Trust me there are people out on the road doing alot worse things than that all day every day.
 

MG84

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What would the trailer shop charge you to fit one similar to this one? Instead of paying for the one move, pay to get your trailer brakes hooked up - would your truck/trailer combo comfortably move your loader if it had the brakes connected? Cheers
Do not buy that Voyager controller, those are exactly the ones that don't work properly with air brakes in my experience. The Prodigy P2 is the best option that isn't terribly expensive.
 

colson04

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Moving 20,000 lbs, 15 miles? I would have moved it as soon as I needed it to be moved. The entire load will be around 55,000 lbs. The truck is capable of stopping well more than that by itself, without trailer brakes.

As for the risk: There is always risk in any solution. If the risk of moving it yourself bothers you, then the cost of hiring it out is a moot point. You are paying for someone else to assume most of the risk. That doesn't come cheap.

Ensure adequate tongue weight, plan your route, and take your time.

As an aside, coming from the ag industry, most ag equipment weighs well in excess of your loader and doesn't come equipped with brakes. Our liquid tanker was a 6,000 gallon, tandem axle set up with no brakes. It relied solely on the tractor for braking and was rated at 25mph. Loaded, that tanker was 70,000 pounds plus another 30,000 for the tractor. We hauled 10 loads a week, anywhere from on farm up to 5 miles away. We never had an accident with that set up. Back in 2012, we finally built a lagoon and now we dragline applicate. We don't own a tanker anymore, but the lessons learned still apply. Know your route, take your time.
 

IceHole

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Is their a towing/lowboy service you can hire to move it?

We have 4-5 towing companies that have Landoll's and RGN lowboy's that only move heavy equipment. It's cheaper for me to hire it out instead of owning a lowboy.
That's what we do for logging equipment. It's around $180/hr.
 

IceHole

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I saw the bluetooth controllers but they are pricey. I need to look at the truck and see what all it has as far as hook up for lights and stuff. Trailer shop could probably get me a good deal on a brake controller or maybe even have a used one.

I talked to one place about moving it and the guy said it was too long for their deck truck so would need a trailer for $15 more per hour at $190.00. Then he said the worst part is there is currently an 18% fuel surcharge that will likely go up to 20-22% if fuel keeps going up in price. He guessed about 4 hours. With another 5% GST on top would be close to $1000 to move it. Yikes!
4 hours to load, go 20 miles and unload? Maybe 1.5hrs.
 

CM1995

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That's what we do for logging equipment. It's around $180/hr.

That's about what it is here.

Still way cheaper than owning a lowboy for the amount of moves we do throughout the year.
 

Welder Dave

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I figured $190 for 4 hours plus 18% and then 5% GST on top of that, $941.64! I only need to make 3 stops and 3 turns. Two hills on gravel roads and then basically flat for about 11 miles on pavement. Very gradual downhill that flattens out about a 1/4 mile before the approach.

If I did move it myself I'd have someone follow me and take it easy. I think there should be some kind of allowance for moving things a short distance if certain rules are followed. Like mentioned a lot of heavy and big farm equipment can be moved with nothing more than a slow moving vehicle placard on the back. I have no problem going under 30 MPH the same speed as a tractor. I'd pull it with the grader if I could.
 

Welder Dave

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Moving 20,000 lbs, 15 miles? I would have moved it as soon as I needed it to be moved. The entire load will be around 55,000 lbs. The truck is capable of stopping well more than that by itself, without trailer brakes.

As for the risk: There is always risk in any solution. If the risk of moving it yourself bothers you, then the cost of hiring it out is a moot point. You are paying for someone else to assume most of the risk. That doesn't come cheap.

Ensure adequate tongue weight, plan your route, and take your time.

As an aside, coming from the ag industry, most ag equipment weighs well in excess of your loader and doesn't come equipped with brakes. Our liquid tanker was a 6,000 gallon, tandem axle set up with no brakes. It relied solely on the tractor for braking and was rated at 25mph. Loaded, that tanker was 70,000 pounds plus another 30,000 for the tractor. We hauled 10 loads a week, anywhere from on farm up to 5 miles away. We never had an accident with that set up. Back in 2012, we finally built a lagoon and now we dragline applicate. We don't own a tanker anymore, but the lessons learned still apply. Know your route, take your time.
That's a good point. I don't understand why you can't take an otherwise safe truck that's never used on the road for a short trip just to move it a new location. Even going no faster than 25 MPH with an escort vehicle behind you. It's safer than a lot of farm equipment moves done with sketchy equipment and poor or no brakes. I don't have commercial insurance so can't get an in-transit permit. Oddly when I bought the truck at auction I could get an in-transit permit to drive it that was good for 7 days. Didn't need an inspection or anything else. It had good working brakes and drove excellent except for me getting a crash course in how to shift a semi transmission. I was trying to shift at way too high of RPM. I watched some YouTube video's on how to shift a 9 speed and they helped, especially when they mentioned it can be easier not using the clutch.
 

MG84

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Moving 20,000 lbs, 15 miles? I would have moved it as soon as I needed it to be moved. The entire load will be around 55,000 lbs. The truck is capable of stopping well more than that by itself, without trailer brakes.
This is exactly what I would do, probably on a Sunday morning. Your track loader + trailer probably weighs less than a load of gravel.
 

Deere500a

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Thinking you had a little gas pot dump but a big ol' heavy Louisville 10wheeler 2% e brakes help that truck has enough engine & transmission using brake pedal will be 2nd. Pulled 580 hoes down the freeway no e brakes with 377 10 wheeler 425 Cat truck felt like it was empty more than enough engine power down shift or use Jake before touch pedal.
 

Deere500a

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Internet is full positive pics you can do it. This guy put the pipe up & the hammerdown last thing on his mind was a brake controller. He made news for distance & clips he covered some milesScreenshot_20260511-100957~2.png
 
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