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Draglines making a comeback

92U 3406

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The pic. of the 54yd. bucket really makes you appreciate how big Big Muskie's 220yd. bucket was. In 2009/2010 a couple guys that road at my track were welder's who got hired on to build a big BE/Marion dragline. It was an 8750 but what was unique is that it is the longest boom ever put on a dragline at 435 feet. They said the weld tests were all dual-shield on thick plate with pretty strict requirements. I think it cost $50,000,000+ to build. I mentioned it before but I had a friend who was in the union, at the time, and got called up to the oilsands. While waiting for blueprints they asked him if he could weld on a dragline while waiting. It was better than sitting around so he agreed. The cables are already up the boom, he just had to take a stinger and some rods and climb up the stairs on the boom. He gets all set up and starts welding a crack when all of a sudden the boom starts moving. Freaked out he gets on his radio and tells them, hey I'm welding on the boom. Then they informed him they don't shut the dragline down for minor repairs. Nope, get someone else. He said it felt like he was going 25 MPH which is pretty accurate and feels worse the higher up/further out you are from the base. I read the BE 3850B stripping shovels had a top swing speed of 25 MPH. I'd guess draglines would be similar. Not long after that he heard they no longer ran the dragline while work was performed on the boom. Alberta also has a dragline that is tied for formally having the longest boom at 420'. Alberta has some of the cleanest coal in the world but they're phasing out coal powered generating plants. I think they'd be much better off looking more into carbon capture technology. Alberta has an abundance of good clean low cost coal. I'm curious what will happen the draglines. They'll have a lot of life left in them.

I've seen the Discovery dragline at Syncrude up close. That thing dwarfs any shovel currently working in any mine up there.

Are the draglines around Wabamun still operating? I ride the Genesee Loop a couple times a summer and I can see a dragline off in the mine but I never see it operating.
 

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Welder Dave great video and information my cousin farms south of there (Tomahawk) when he goes to Edmonton he sees this monster.
 

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I've seen the Discovery dragline at Syncrude up close. That thing dwarfs any shovel currently working in any mine up there.

Are the draglines around Wabamun still operating? I ride the Genesee Loop a couple times a summer and I can see a dragline off in the mine but I never see it operating.
I think the Wabamun mine is closed or converted to natural gas. Syncrude bought 2 100yd. BE 2570 draglines in 1974. They sold one and kept one on display. They also used bucket wheel excavators. I think one is on display too. My welding teacher worked building the Syncrude plant. It was his last job before he became a welding teacher at the trade school I went to. I think the school recruited him because he said it was the only school he'd go to. Sadly they got rid of the trade school. All the teachers were experienced trades people. He said the big Krupp bucket wheel had (I think) 3 Atco trailers full of blueprints to reference when building it. He didn't work on the bucket wheel though. He was a Tig piping specialist and may have been a foreman but not sure. He was a foreman on several big jobs and often got stuck with the problem apprentices. I asked him once what a problem apprentice was? A guy who'd throw a grinder at you when it was spinning! Yikes!
 
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They have 2 for sale as we speak and the big one is still swinging it boom doing reclamation work last I heard.
A 2010 dragline with all the latest technology is probably barely broken in. Draglines can last 50 years or more. They're often life of the mine machines.
 

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I think the Wabamun mine is closed or converted to natural gas. Syncrude bought 2 100yd. BE 2570 draglines in 1974. They sold one and kept one on display. They also used bucket wheel excavators. I think one is on display too. My welding teacher worked building the Syncrude plant. It was his last job before he became a welding teacher at the trade school I went to. I think the school recruited him because he said it was the only school he'd go to. Sadly they got rid of the trade school. All the teachers were experienced trades people. He said the big Krupp bucket wheel had (I think) 3 Atco trailers full of blueprints to reference when building it. He didn't work on the bucket wheel though. He was a Tig piping specialist and may have been a foreman but not sure. He was a foreman on several big jobs and often got stuck with the problem apprentices. I asked him once what a problem apprentice was? A guy who'd throw a grinder at you when it was spinning! Yikes!

Yep there's a bucket wheel next to Discovery. Have some pictures somewhere with my service truck in front of it and the bucket wheel. There was a 2nd bucket wheel out by KMC's Syncrude shop that was dismantled while I was up there.
 

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A lot of the largest machines made went to work in the oilsands. Several were designed especially for the oilsands as well.
 

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I've seen the Discovery dragline at Syncrude up close. That thing dwarfs any shovel currently working in any mine up there.

Are the draglines around Wabamun still operating? I ride the Genesee Loop a couple times a summer and I can see a dragline off in the mine but I never see it operating.
Talked to my cousin and on Saturday he went by and the big one is swinging a long ways from the road doing reclamation work. A few years ago they put in a 36 in and a 48 in Natural gas pipe lines into the power stations he said.
 
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