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Which excavators are made by the same people??

Discussion in 'Excavators' started by iceberg210, Nov 5, 2006.

  1. iceberg210

    iceberg210 Well-Known Member

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    I've been researching many excavators lately and learned that most are made by just a few manufactures and then relabeled by others. So I was working on putting together a list as a reference and was wondering if anyone could add to my list.

    Kobelco (Manufacture) relabled as
    Case, New Holland, Link Belt, Kobelco

    Hitachi and John Deere

    Cat and (JCB)?????? I don't know about this one but I thought there might be some possibility there. If anyone has any more it'd be very helpful. Thanks
     
  2. Wulf

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    There is a lot of collabaration between manufacturers but JCB aren't associated with Cat as far as I know.

    JCB were working with Japanese manufacturer Sumitomo to build the original JS range but once they were ahead of the game they severed the tie and are now working alone.

    I think Sumitomo are working with Linkbelt and are linked through the CNH group.

    Someone may have better insight but I think Cat were working with Mitsubishi and now have some association with O&K after their bad experience with building their own mining shovels.

    Volvo were working with Ackermann but purchased Samsung and that's what their mainline excavators are based on.

    Komatsu work independently but purchased Demag to acquire large shovel technology.
     
  3. jazak

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    If CAT & JCB are together, you can't tel because they look nothing alike not to mention that CAT is way better built.

    ASV & CAT are together on the tracked skid steers
    Bobcat & IR (Ingersoll Rand)
     
  4. Wulf

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    Interesting... JCB quality and finish looked very impressive on the JS series that were at Conexpo. If they are so much better where are new Cat C series excavators built?
     
  5. iceberg210

    iceberg210 Well-Known Member

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    Okay that makes sense. I had heard just in passing that Cat had something to do with JCB but it makes more that they don't. Does anyone have connections with Hyundai that anyone knows about?
     
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    They use NAGANO mini excavators.
     
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    I know Bobcat builds their own, with the exception of the 442. I think Terex builds it for them. The rest, they claim are built in the U.S.
     
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    True forgot about that ^^^^^
     
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    I think JCB and New Holland are together on there bigger 4wd backhoes. But not for sure, my machanic said they were.
     
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    Case and New Holland are now part of CNH Global, so you'll see plenty of twins from them in all types of machines
     
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    I tried out a Case mini excavator and its made by Kobelco. But i thought the larger machines were made by sumitomo? doug
     
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    Heres my son trying it out.
     

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    i was always under the impression that case and linkbelts were sumitomos?
     
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    ya, thats what i thought. Linkbelt and Case, made by sumitomo. I will checkit out . I am pretty sure the new kobelcos dont look anything like the Case cx's.
     
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    Okay I think your right although it doesn't make sense to me why Case wouldn't just use Kobelcos as they are all under the same overall umbrella it looks like Case and Linkbelt are Sumitomo while New Hollands are just Kobelcos with a different coat of paint.

    So so far we have

    Deere/Hitachi
    Case/Link Belt/Sumitomo
    Kobelco/New Holland

    Any more?
     
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    Cat owns 67% of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. MHI manufacture compact machines and components for the Cat line up.
     
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    Kobelco, Case and New Holland are the same as far as excavators Kobelco is making them all. The older New Holland's were made with help from O&K at least that the service rep tells our dealership. New Holland and Case do have seperate backhoe lines that are not involved with anyone else.
     
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    our yanmar dealer says yanmar is affiliated with deere, im not sure how much, or if its even true.
     
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    It looks like there's a lot of confusion out there about this subject -- even dealers don't quite have it strait. (And I certainly don't know the exact progression either, so check my points!)

    Older Deere mini-excavators were made by Yanmar, but are currently repainted Hitachis (with other tweaks as well). Case's small, medium, and large machines are NOT Kobelcos, but are rather Sumitomos (with Link-Belt). Kobelco makes the NH line for North America; Fiat produces the NH line for Europe. Case mini-excavators are now made by Kobelco, as are NH's; the old NH line used to be Schaeff (Terex) machines. The old NH larger excavators were Fiat-Allis machines -- I'm not sure if Fiat-Aliis had something going on with O&K, but that appears to be the case in the US, anyhow. The New Holland LB115 was originally a Fiat-Allis unit. Terex's excavators are a mutt of Atlas in Europe and Daewoo in the States. Volvos bought out Samsung and now produce excavators only under the Volvo name.
     
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    Yanmar supplied Deere with engines for their compact tractors as well.