scraper/dirt pan questions

[treemover]

We currently have a cat 65c and 15c reynolds pan, we have a job coming online this summer and need another machine. I like our current setup, small, maneuverable and cat is pretty reliable, downside, small, can't pull when turning , mud sucks.

Should i find a comparable setup or find an ag tractor vs challenger?
i do not have any experience running a traditional scraper, would i be better off finding one of these?
we will be into topsoil, med-heavy clay and then a loose clay mix

 

[CM1995]

How many yards total?

 

[treemover]

60-65,000 1500 or less haul. stock pile topsoil, stock pile clay, build berms with crap bottom dirt. line berms with topsoil and line pond with clay. so we may be touching 110,000 yards

 

[Tinkerer]

Have you dug any test holes in the pond area ?

 

[treemover]

Have you dug any test holes in the pond area ?

What does that matter to my oringinal post? Yes. We have already dug a small on site, that's how I know about differ soils

 

[AzIron]

It matters to know how crappy the bad dirt is if it will hold up a scraper

Problem with cat scrapers or wabcos is they dont like mud and if your doing just cans like a 31 or 51 they need a push cat to work efficiently and you need more than one on the job to be efficient with a dozer

I would suggest an articulated tractor on tracks if its muddy

 

[Shimmy1]

60-65,000 1500 or less haul. stock pile topsoil, stock pile clay, build berms with crap bottom dirt. line berms with topsoil and line pond with clay. so we may be touching 110,000 yards

Yikes. 110k yards on a 1000' haul? You need more than 2 rigs.

 

[ShaneK]

I've heard KanEquip has the reputation for scraper knowledge in the state. Should be able to point you in the right direction for a successful project there.

 

[DoyleX]

Your little setup is economical and you know what it can and cant do.

Even the "scraper special" ag tractors eat transmissions and drivetrain. They dont float either

 

[terex herder]

If you are close to the east side of the state, Snydenstricker in Missouri has rental pans and tractors, and has a guy thats pretty knowledgeable on them.

 

[lantraxco]

If you can't run efficiently because it's too soft, excavators to load and rubber tracked carriers in an endless loop. Swamp cat to push it in.