S. Madill, Blacksmith, Founded in 1911 in Nanaimo BC

[Swizzle]

Rubber Tire Carriers

Hello everyone, I've been following the forestry threads for some time but this is my first post. I hope this hasn't been answered already in another post, but when did Madill stop building swing yarders on rubber, and why?

 

[jackd]

Madill?

This was parked against the back fence of Cameron yard - the only line machine that I saw - warmed the heart. But what the hell is it? I was scratching my head when I saw the snorkel - which I assumed was a 'Super Snorkel'. In my time, every snorkel was wood and I remember helping change a few when the operator would snap them off. The red paint underneath speaks M & B to me, and the numbering as well - L-22 (L-202 in smaller numbers underneath it) Anyone know anything about it?

 

[075]

It is an 075 madill with the 085 undercarrage, with an 8V 71 Jimmy for power. Micron extendable snorkel , normaly only seen on rubber tired machines.

 

[jackd]

I finally can say that I saw an 075 Madill - these weren't around my neck of the woods when I was in the industry. Every picture I've seen of them has them on rubber. How does the snorkel extend?

 

[075]

You boom down and take the dog out and then slack the snorkel winch, and gravity takes care of the rest normally, then put the dog back in and tighten up the winch a bit so the top guyline is tight.Never really cared for them ,to easy to bend and not much strength on a side pull. Work good on rubber tired machines, easy to move and not much weight over the axels and do not hang up in the trees as you move.

 

[jackd]

By you online signature, your avatar and your profile, I would say that you are the expert on these things. We never had any super snorkels at Sproat Lake Div. when I was there. We used an American on tracks (L-124 - I've posted pics of it here) with a long straight boom for cherry picking on right-of-ways. There was an old time loader operator - Eli Evans - who described one of the early attempts to make a super snorkel, my guess was that he was involved with it. All I recall was his description of the metal peeling off the hook rollers on the turntable because of the increased weight way out front away from the machine. My guess is that they somehow got the technology right in the end.

 

[Jumbo]

After reading about snorkels and super snorkels, I have the following observation and question, so please enlighten me:

1) Down here in Washington, I bumped knots on a Washington Trackloader with an extendable snorkel, about 40 feet in length as I recall. Using a fourth drum, we tailholted the line on the top of the support which had some sort of roller bearings that I do not recall, but I greased them as part of my knotbumper duties, ran it through a sheave on the back of the snorkel down to the drum. Tighten up on the drum and the snorkel extends slack it down and it retracts. Pretty simple.

2) Now the question, we only used the snorkel to allow the grapples to be cast further than one could using just the heel boom. All yarding stresses were on the heel boom not the snorkel. From what I read about twisting and breaking snorkels, (primarily in BC) did others use the snorkel to yard with? I suspect I am wrong in my assumption, but reading various posts, that has become my conclusion. Please correct me….

 

[075]

I have shot gunned with my old three section snorkel,with just two sections(90feet) worked pretty good lots of lift but was slow getting out of the landing( bight in the haulback). Now days with the newer 120 foot folding snorkel we log lots of second growth on steeper ground that the chuckers can not work on. So I have to pile it where the processor can handle it, so that means skining the wood out and upending it so all the butts are ahead for the processor.All which puts a strain on the snorkel. Also when yarding you have to sometimes tighten up on the haulback to hold the log back to pop over a stump, or on the top side to keep from running down the hill faster than the mainline can inspool. I also load a fair amount with the entire snorkel on, and you use the haulback for skining the logs ahead.

 

[furpo]

News Flash

12001 has arrived in Tokoroa, NZ. Photos to follow.

 

[TorkelH]

News Flash

12001 has arrived in Tokoroa, NZ. Photos to follow.

Thats the one we found out was the first 120 belonging to Canoe Creek Logging, New Hazelton, BC?

 

[SPMiller]

Deleted for now

 

[jackd]

Any details on these? Where, when?

 

[SPMiller]

Frser

 

[furpo]

Thats the one we found out was the first 120 belonging to Canoe Creek Logging, New Hazelton, BC?

It is the one that I thought was #6 or 7. You found the photos of it for sale online. It is recognisable from the gap in the radiator gaurd. It had the same yellow boom struts as the Gould Sunrise machine so I suspect it was owned by them at some point.

I always suspected that the Canoe Creek machine was #1 as it was on the brouchure cover. What does not fit is that this machine now has 3 guyropes not the 2 as in the brouchure.

I hope someone can solve this puzzle.

 

[Hallback]

It is the one that I thought was #6 or 7. You found the photos of it for sale online. It is recognisable from the gap in the radiator gaurd. It had the same yellow boom struts as the Gould Sunrise machine so I suspect it was owned by them at some point.

I always suspected that the Canoe Creek machine was #1 as it was on the brouchure cover. What does not fit is that this machine now has 3 guyropes not the 2 as in the brouchure.

I hope someone can solve this puzzle.

Gould-Sunrise has had only one swing yarder. Does anyone know the history on their machine??

 

[yblock]

ar those not butler brother trucks built in sanich

 

[island50]

Gould had 120-01, Canoe Creek had 120-03, now owned by Dorman's.

 

[island50]

This was last updated in 2007, but some good info for those that are interested.

Madill/Cypress Yarders and Line Loaders


044’s

-60025 Interfore Squamish
-60030 Hayes Forest Services (Scrapped for parts)
-60031 Bear Creek Logging
-60032 Hayes Forest Services (Scrapped for parts)
-60036 Beban Logging
-60040 Coulson Forest Products (Scrapped for parts)
-60043 Bear Creek Logging
-60044 Western Forest Zeballos
-60048 Interfore Cypress Operations
-60050 Western Holberg
-60051 Western Port McNeill
-60053 Weyerhaeuser Port McNeill (Surplus, but in 1 piece)
-60056 Coulson Group (Scrapped for parts)
-60057 Western Jeune Landing
-60064 Tymatt Contracting
-60067 Russel and Lilly
-60069 Coulson Group
-60071 Western Holberg
-60072 Beban Logging
-60074 Western Gold River
-60076 Hayes Forest Service
-60077 Spirit Lake Timber
-60084 Western Zeballos
-60088 Hayes Forest Services (Scrapped for parts)
-60089 Hayes Forest Services (Scrapped for parts)
-60090 Western Holberg
-60091 Interfore Squamish
-60092 2 Rivers Sand and Gravel (Wenatchie, U.S)
-60093 Dyer Logging
-60094 Hayes Forest Services (Scrapped for parts)
-60095 Coulson Forest Products
-60096 Hayes Forest Services
-60097 Interfore Cleagh Creek
-60098 Interfore Mereworth
-60099 Tribune Timber
-60101 Friell Lake Logging
-60102 Beban Logging
-60103 Hayes Forest Services
-60104 Coulson Group
-60105 Hayes Forest Services
-60106 Holbrook Dyson Logging
-60107 Interfore Brittan River
-60108 Koprino Logging
-60109 Hayes Forest Services
-60111 Abfam (QCI)
-60112 Interfore Mereworth
-60113 Western Jeune Landing
-60114 Coulson Forest Products
-60115 Weyerhaeuser Sprout Lake
-60116 Beban Logging
-60117 Olympic Forest Products
-60120 Western Jeune Landing
-60121 Western Holberg
-60122 Western Zeballos
-60125 Western Gold River (Burned and scrapped)
-60126 Onion Lake Logging
-60127 Friell Lake Logging
-60128 Timberwest Cowichan
-60129 Hayes Forest Services
-60130 Interfore Squamish
-60131 Hayes Forest Service
-60132 Hayes Forest Service
-60133 Weyerhaeuser Sprout Lake
-60134 Husby Forest
-60135 Ironside Contracting
-60136 Spirit Lake Timber



144’s
-88001 Alm-Wood Contr.
-88002 JA McKay Logging
-88003 Lemare Lake Logging
-88004 Western Gold River
-88005 Edwards and Associates
-88006 Western Holberg
-88007 (143) White and Davidson
-88008 (143) Interfore Cypress Operations (Madill Major repairs 2004)
-88009 (143) Western Jordan River
-88010 (143) Fleetwood Forest Products (Burned and scrapped)
-88011 Western Gold River (Madill Rebuild 2005)
-88012 Koprino Logging
-88013 Lemare Lake Logging
-88014 Olympic Forest Products
-88015 (143) Edwards and Associates
-88016 Western Jeune Landing
-88017 Western Holberg
-88018 (143) Interfore Cypress Operations
-88019 Friell Lake Logging
-88020 (143) Ketchikan Pulp (Partially parted out)
-88021 Lemare Lake Logging
-88022 Holbrook Dyson Logging
-88024 (Burned 03) Western Holberg
-88025 Mars Industries
-88026 Lemare Lake Logging


120’s

-120-01 Gould and Sunrise Logging Castle Rock, Wa
-120-03 Dorman Timber
-120-04 May Trucking
-120-05 Cedar River Timber
-120-06 DR Moore Logging
-120-08 Fall River Logging
-120-10 Northwind Logging
-120-11 HD Wright Logging
-120-12 DR Moore Logging
-120-17 Reitmeyer Logging
-120-18 Whiskey Jack Logging
-120-20 Young Mills Logging
-120-25 Meints Contr.
-120-26 Canoe Creek Logging
-120-28 Weyerhaeuser Longview
-120-29 DR Moore Logging
-120-30 Morgan Timbers Tasmania, Australia

121’s

-121-02 Striechert Developements
-121-03 Ted Leroy Trucking


122’s


-122-01 Nielson Bros Logging (Washington)
-122-03 Main Logging
-122-04 Granite Lake Logging
-122-05 Main Logging
-122-08 Jasak Logging
-122-09 Lineham Logging
-122-10 Lineham Logging
-122-11 Hayes Forest Service
-122-17 Interfore Brittan River
-122-20 Red Hot Forestry
-122-21 K-Shian Logging
-122-23 CKS Logging
-122-24 Hayes Forest Service
-122-25 Hayes Forest Service
-122-26 Elaho Logging
-122-27 D + D Logging
-122-28 Windy River Contr.
-122-29 Dorman Timber
-122-31 Interfore Squamish
-122-32 Interfore Brittan River
-122-34 Mid Island Excavating
-122-36 Jasak Logging
-122-37 Interfore Sechelt
-122-38 Hayes Forest Service
-122-39 Hayes Forest Service
-122-41 Hayes Forest Service
-122-42 Hayes Forest Service
-122-43 Squamish Mills
-122-44 Cougar Inlet Logging
-122-45 Interfore Sechelt
-122-47 Schiller Contracting (Revelstoke)


123’s
-123-03 Western Gold River
-123-04 Mt. Sicker Lumber
-123-05 Hamilton Logging
-123-08 Mt Sicker Lumber
-123-10 Western Holberg
-123-14 Bendickson Contractors
-123-16 Weyco Longview
-123-17 Elaho Logging
-123-18 Interfore Scott Cove
-123-19 Lemare Lake Logging
-123-20 Ted Leroy Trucking
-123-23 North Group Ltd. New Zealand



124’s

-124-01 CRB Logging
-124-02 Surco Logging Eugene, Or
-124-03 Alliford Bay Logging
-124-04 Northwind Logging
-124-05 Ted Leroy Trucking
-124-06 Ross grapple Yarding
-124-08 Main Logging
-124-10 Western Port McNeill
-124-11 New Zealand
-124-12 Fleetwood Forest
-124-13 New Zealand
-124-14 Husby Forest
-124-15 Ted Leroy Trucking
-124-17 Interfore Chamiss Bay
-124-18 Hurley Creek
-124-19 Ted Leroy Trucking
-124-20 Haans Creek
-124-21 WD Moore Logging
-124-23 Tim Brown Logging Inc. Castle Rock Wa
-124-24 Ted Leroy Trucking
-124-25 Island Timberlands NW Bay
-124-27 Husby Forest Products
-124-28 Island Timberlands NW Bay
-124-29 Western Jordan River
-124-30 Green Diamond Resources Matlock, Wa
-124-31 Lizzie Bay Logging
-124-32 Western North Island
-124-33 Beban Logging
-124-34 Speers Construction
-124-35 Roga Forest Products
-124-37 Mack Bros
-124-38 Young Mills
-124-39 Munns Lumber
-124-40 Cortloch Industries
-124-41 Ted Leroy Trucking
-124-42 Cortloch Industries
-124-43 New Zealand
-124-44 Island Timberlands NW Bay
-124-45 Olympic Forest Products
-124-46 Sold by Goughs in New Zealand
-124-47 Sold by Goughs in New Zealand
-124-48 Sold by Goughs in New Zealand



7280 B’s and C’s

-7280B-10 Kwatna Timber
-7280B-14 Mike Hamilton Logging
-7280B-19 Onion Lake Logging
-7280B-20 Western Port McNeill
-7280B-21 Cortloch Industries
-7280B-22 Western Englewood (T-Mar Rebuild 2003)
-7280B-23 Dyer Logging (T-Mar Rebuild 2004)
-7280B-24 Western North Island
-7280B-25 Cortloch Industries
-7280B-26 Alliford Bay
-7280B-27 Edwards and Associates
-7280B-28 Kwatna Timber (T-Mar Rebuild 2003)
-7280B-29 Cypress Creek Logging
-7280B-30 Wahkash Contr.
-7280B-31 Benwest Contr.
-7280B-32 Ironside Contr.
-7280B-33 Olympic Forest Products
-7280B-34 Kwatna Timber
-7280B-35 Western Englewood (T-Mar Rebuild 2004)
-7280B-36 Holbrook and Dyson (Major repairs customer/Madill2004)
-7280B-37 Terrace Timber
-7280B-38 Lemare Lake Logging
-7280B-39* Olsen Group
-7280B-39* Coast Mountain Ind (Madill Rebuild 2002
-7280B-40 Hayes Forest Services
-7280B-41 Pacific Thinning
-7280B-42 Hayes Forest Services
-7280C-43 Benwest Contr.
-7280C-44 Hayes Forest Service
-7280C-45 Hayes Forest Services (Madill Rebuild 2002)
-7280C-46 Powell Daniels Logging (Madill Rebuild 2005)
-7280C-47 Western Englewood (T-Mar Rebuild 2004)
-7280C-48 Western Englewood (T-Mar Rebuild 2004)
-7280C-49 Edwards and Associates
-7280C-50 Coast Mountain Ind
-7280C-51 GW Cox Logging
-7280C-52 Olsen Group
-7280C-53 Bendickson Logging (T-Mar Rebuild 2002)
-7280C-54 Olympic Forest Products


6280’s

-6280-01 Barnes and Florence
-6280-02 Olympic Forest
-6280-03 Hayes Forest Service
-6280-04 Olympic Forest Products
-6280-05 Tolson Industries
-6280-06 Cortloch Industries
-6280-07 Sladey Timber
-6280-08 JDJ Pole
-6280-09 Western Englewood
-6280-10 Don Hull and Sons
-6280-11 W + D Logging
-6280-12 Main Logging
-6280-13 Hayes Forest Service
-6280-14 Interfore Hope
-6280-15 Lama Pass Logging
-6280-16 Ted Leroy Trucking


075 Loaders

-90030 Hayes Forest Service
-90032 Hayes Forest Service
-90033 Dane Developements
-90043 Coulson Forest Products
-90046 Western Gold River Sold this machine, don’t know owner
-90048 Hayes Forest Service
-90049 Western Englewood
-90050 Western Port McNeill (Surplus, being scrapped)
-90056 Western Port McNeill
-90058 Coulson Forest Products
-90059 Western Holberg (Surplus, scrapped)
-90062 Hayes Forest Service
-90063 Hayes Forest Service
-90065 Western Holberg
-90067 Western Jeune Landing
-90070 Ted Leroy Trucking
-90071 Western Holberg
-90077 Ted Leroy Trucking
-90076 Western Port McNeill
-90075 Western Englewood
-90082 Western Holberg
-90087 Western Port McNeill
-90088 Western Gold River


7230 Loaders

-7230-01 Olympic Forest Products
-7230-04 Hayes Forest Service
-7230-05 Hayes Forest Service
-7230-06 Eldred River Logging
-7230-07 Hayes Forest Service
-7230-08 Hayes Forest Service
-7230-09 Teal Jones Company
-7230-11 Skeena Sawmills
-7230-12 Husby Forest Products
-7230-15 Hayes Forest Services
-7230-16 Ted Leroy Trucking
-7230-17 Holbrook Dyson Logging
-7230-18 Hayes Forest Service
-7230-19 Hayes Forest Service
-7230-20 Benwest Logging
-7230-22 WD Moore Logging
-7230-24 Tsibass Construction

 

[Hallback]

124-23 is now owned by Tim Brown Logging Inc. Castle Rock Wa.

 

[island50]

124-23 is now owned by Tim Brown Logging Inc. Castle Rock Wa.

As I said this is 4 years old and was not an exact science when it was maintained, there will be lots of updates with all the turn over of equipment the past 4 years. I am happy to edit the list if anyone is interested, just post any updates you are aware of??