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moving scraper down road ?

Turbo21835

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Can you, sure, but theres a few things to consider. My experiences are with scrapers on the road are in ohio. I belive the requirement for permit is going to be based on weight and sq inches of tire in contact with the ground. That being said, if you have a truck in the lead and a truck following you shouldnt have any problems. If the job sites were less than a few miles away we would run our Terex Ts 14s and Cat 627s down the road. The 627s were always a pain as they are pretty wide. The 14s were down right dangerous, as you had to have the throtle wide open to turn. Also the only brakes they had were the big steel thing between the engines. We backed off on roading them when we had an operator take out a bunch of mailboxes with the draft arms. This is where it got interesting, because our operators could not move them so we called the lowboy. The driver would get there, park his truck, shut it down, fire up the pan and drive it down the road. In their defense getting these things on the trailer and chaining them down. We had a scraper trailer for the 627s, worked great, but in order to be legal there had to be an ungodly amount of chains on them. Took about an hour to hang and bind the chains.
 

lgammon

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not really relevent in todays terms but i remember dad telling me that in the sixties that the man he worked for bought 2 scrapers and a cat14 grader in indiana at auction, my dad my grandfather and a few other guys drove them home to east tennessee. he said it took three days. to stop the scrapers the chained big truck tires under the tubs so that they didn't tear up the road. and the only problem they had was that about 40 miles from home one of the tires on the scraper cought on fire, but it was just down the street from the fire house so they put it out and got a new tire and drove it on in. i guess that is what you call the good ole days......3 days on the road on a scraper
 

td25c

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not really relevent in todays terms but i remember dad telling me that in the sixties that the man he worked for bought 2 scrapers and a cat14 grader in indiana at auction, my dad my grandfather and a few other guys drove them home to east tennessee. he said it took three days. to stop the scrapers the chained big truck tires under the tubs so that they didn't tear up the road. and the only problem they had was that about 40 miles from home one of the tires on the scraper cought on fire, but it was just down the street from the fire house so they put it out and got a new tire and drove it on in. i guess that is what you call the good ole days......3 days on the road on a scraper

I have used the truck tire under the bowl,it works.I will move my scraper short distance,escort front and rear,and I take side roads as much as possible.I would say any more than 5 mile's,I suggest hauling it.This depends alot on where you are located,Its alot different between more heavily populated city's verses a rural setting.
 

OneWelder

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There was these French Canadians who worked for a company that I did a lot of work for. The company owner and the Canadians decided that since the next job was only a couple of exits down the Interstate - nobody would mind- they would just drive on over to that site. Well a lot of people minded ! and it it did not help when his Wife arrived with one of those big jugs to post their bail - I guess it was about ten in the evening before enough change was counted out.
 

surfer-joe

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Rarely see a scraper running a highway these days. States got so eager for money they just about permitted the death out of that, so what you do see are boot legged machines hopping a short distance and praying like crazy they don't get stopped.

Around here, I see an occasional 613 or 615 moving on pavement, but most are on trailers. With traffic the way it is here in the Phoenix metro area, a scraper the size of King Kong painted glowing orange would soon be festooned with wrecked cars and trucks. Absolutely crazy.

Years ago I took the derned things everywhere on roads. Didn't matter the size. I still remember Holloway moving 660's and 651's up I-25 from Alburquerque, New Mexico to Cherry Creek Dam outside Denver. That was a three or four day trip. They ran them out of New Mexico up to near Durango too on the state road. Nearly ran me and my little Chev Vega off the road -- that was in 1971.

Turbo, back in the mid-sixties, my brother and I ran LeTourneau "D" pulls all over Isabella and Clare Counties. We had four and they steered like a drunk pig. We collected more than a few mailboxes and mirrors.
 

qball

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a major earthmover in chicago that i worked for a few years ago was moving a string of five or six 627's through the west side of the city and one operator lost control and drove into a drycleaners, killing a person.
now, loboys for every move.
 

Nothinbetter

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Now I think it's about axle loads, most scrapers have too much on the front axle. Unless it's an ag. machine here in NY it's limited to 20 or 25,000 lbs per axle. I don't think you can get a permit anymore.
 

thejdman04

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Around here, the local cops dont care, state cops do, but lots of machines loaders scrapers etc get roaded.
 

Knucklehead

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Rarely see a scraper running a highway these days. States got so eager for money they just about permitted the death out of that, so what you do see are boot legged machines hopping a short distance and praying like crazy they don't get stopped.

Around here, I see an occasional 613 or 615 moving on pavement, but most are on trailers. With traffic the way it is here in the Phoenix metro area, a scraper the size of King Kong painted glowing orange would soon be festooned with wrecked cars and trucks. Absolutely crazy.

Years ago I took the derned things everywhere on roads. Didn't matter the size. I still remember Holloway moving 660's and 651's up I-25 from Alburquerque, New Mexico to Cherry Creek Dam outside Denver. That was a three or four day trip. They ran them out of New Mexico up to near Durango too on the state road. Nearly ran me and my little Chev Vega off the road -- that was in 1971.

Turbo, back in the mid-sixties, my brother and I ran LeTourneau "D" pulls all over Isabella and Clare Counties. We had four and they steered like a drunk pig. We collected more than a few mailboxes and mirrors.

My Grandpa bought a Wabco (I think) at a sale in Paducah KY. The story I heard was that he could not get permits to haul it home. He had my Grandma go across the old bridge(skinny with a steel deck) and stop traffic. When she got them stopped she got him on the 2 way and he brought it across the river, and all the way home. That trip is @65 miles by interstateso it is probably 75 or so by 2 lane roads. It was one of those electric steer crazy driving things with a 6-71 in it
 

td25c

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My Grandpa bought a Wabco (I think) at a sale in Paducah KY. The story I heard was that he could not get permits to haul it home. He had my Grandma go across the old bridge(skinny with a steel deck) and stop traffic. When she got them stopped she got him on the 2 way and he brought it across the river, and all the way home. That trip is @65 miles by interstateso it is probably 75 or so by 2 lane roads. It was one of those electric steer crazy driving things with a 6-71 in it

My friend who Is in his eary 80s told me a story about driving 3 wabco scrapers from savanna Georgia to tere-haute Indiana.It took them 4 days.This was in the middle 1950's.I dont think they had the traffic and road-rage problem back then.
 

micbare

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Moving Scrapers

My Dad told me about one time when he and other guy took 2 2t55 International Harvester scrapers from Atlanta, Georgia to Columbia, South Carolina.It was all two lane roads pre interstate and four lane roads. Guess it was the late fifities. They put there suitcases, a 55 gallon drum of diesel fuel in the bowl and old truck tire between the apron and bowl. He told we that along the way as they were traveling down the road a Pepsi cola truck went around them. At the top of the next hill the guy he was traveling with mashed in the clutch,knocked it out of gear and went around the Pepsi Cola truck as they went down the hill. My father said at the time it was one of the most crazy things he had ever saw. But that was a different time. I don`t think things will ever be as simple and care free as they were back in the 50`s,60`s and early 70`s:usa
 

heavylift

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I's say no here also, as the last one I remember had a DOT truck behind it. and the driver in handcuffs... He had a warrant, plus no dl if I remember correctly
 

DiamondLTruckin

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My old man told me a story about one time they were towing a cable scraper behind a truck. I'm guessing they had the cable tied off or something but the cable let loose going down the highway and down came the bowl! Taking out a good chunk of roadway that the company had to fix. If I ever own a scraper I'll probably remember that story when it comes time to transport it.
 

Deeretime

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You need a 10:30 permit ! Any time after 10pm no one cares! ... But it would be a bad decission if you got caught, I only drive our 27`s and our rock trucks if im just going down the gravel roads where any thing is usualy legal but never on the hwy`s
 
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