Interchanging 613A diff head.

[HSV127]

Hi, was wondering if anyone could tell me if there was another machine that runs the same non diff lock diff head as a 613A scraper?

One guy I talked to said maybe an 815 trash compactor?

I was thinking a 518 skidder, planetaries are the same but diff head is smaller.

I only really want the cast diff centre that the crown wheel bolts to as my one has had a repair done to where one of the carrier bearings sits which has now failed and I'm not keen on trying it again.

Cheers, Rob.

 

[D6 Merv]

Hi HSV; if my drunken younger memorys correct. 950A is the same. Did alot of these when i worked for mr gough many moons ago.
someone on trademe has wrecked a 613. Not sure if its jason warren at trackworks. But have a look there.
815 etc is same as 966 and bigger i remember; or think i do
cheers merv

 

[Brainzie]

yes those are at trackworks. I know one of hose diffs is in good nick, well it never gave us any trouble. The head is out of a loader, not sure if it was a 950 or a 966 head, cant remember though sorry. if your needle rollers in the planetarys are looking warn make up some brass bushes and nurl them to let the oil lubricate the pin.

well the next post clears all that up hehehe

 

[Lee-online]

The diff carrier 5k7828 is used in........




528 SKIDDER POWER SHIFT 3306 ENGINE
01/04/1992 SEBP1413

528 GRAPPLE SKIDDER POWER SHIFT 3306 ENGINE
01/04/1990 SEBP1414

966C WHEEL LOADER 3306 ENGINE
01/03/1987 XMBP9669

613B TRACTOR 3208 ENGINE
01/09/1985 SEBP1071

950 WHEEL LOADER 3304 ENGINE
01/11/1984 HEBP1104

815 COMPACTOR 3306 ENGINE
01/09/1984 HEBP1151

528 GRAPPLE SKIDDER 3306 ENGINE
01/08/1984 SEBP1131

966C WHEEL LOADER 3306 ENGINE
01/04/1984 SEBP1110

966C WHEEL LOADER 3306 ENGINE
01/02/1984 ZEBP0563

528 SKIDDER 3306 ENGINE
01/01/1984 SEBP1286

966 WHEEL LOADER
01/12/1983 UEH0009S

950 WHEEL LOADER 3304 ENGINE
01/07/1983 SEBP1048

815 COMPACTOR 3306 ENGINE
01/07/1983 SEBP1109

966 WHEEL LOADER - 3306 ENGINE
01/03/1983 HEBP1147

528 GRAPPLE SKIDDER 3306 ENGINE
01/08/1982 SEBP1287

815 COMPACTOR
01/08/1982 UEH0861S

815 COMPACTOR
01/06/1981 UEH0317S

950 WHEEL LOADER
01/06/1981 UEG0690S

950 WHEEL LOADER
01/06/1981 UEH0010S

816 LANDFILL COMPACTOR 3306 ENGINE
01/06/1981 SEBP1120

815 COMPACTOR
01/05/1981 UEG0753S

528 SKIDDER 3306 ENGINE
01/02/1981 SEBP1130

814 TRACTOR 3306 ENGINE
01/08/1980 HEBP1150

950 WHEEL LOADER 3304 ENGINE
01/05/1980 XMBP9654

816 LANDFILL COMPACTOR
01/05/1980 UEG0820S

966C WHEEL LOADER 3306 ENGINE
01/02/1980 UEG0716S

950 WHEEL LOADER
01/06/1979 UEH0840S

966C WHEEL LOADER 3306 ENGINE
01/04/1979 XMBP9668

966C WHEEL LOADER
01/02/1979 UE070090

613 TRACTOR
01/02/1979 UEG0301S

613 TRACTOR
01/11/1978 UEG0624S

950 WHEEL LOADER
01/05/1978 XMBP9563

528 SKIDDER
01/04/1978 SEBP1032

950 WHEEL LOADER
01/01/1978 UEG0877S

950 WHEEL LOADER
01/07/1977 UE070123

814 TRACTOR
01/07/1977 UEH0851S

816 LANDFILL COMPACTOR
01/05/1977 UEG0615S

966C WHEEL LOADER
01/04/1977 UEH0832S

815 COMPACTOR
01/02/1977 UEG0266S

966C WHEEL LOADER 3306 ENGINE
01/12/1976 ZEBP0562

814 TRACTOR
01/11/1976 UEG0780S

814 TRACTOR 3306 ENGINE
01/09/1976 SEBP2071

528 SKIDDER
01/10/1975 UEG0816S

950 TREE HARVESTER
01/06/1975 UEG0845S

814 TRACTOR
01/06/1975 UEG0265S

814 TRACTOR
01/07/1974 UEH0318S

950 TREE HARVESTER
01/02/1974 UEG0625S

 

[D6 Merv]

Yes that triggered another memory burst brainzie. We used to use a pencil grinder to nic a wee groove in the diff head underneath the steel washers for the spider gears to give them abit more lube to help in severe cases of wheel spinout. As we saw several that had worn the case unuseable due to excessive wear. If all those heads are the same will give you a few more choices HSV.
Also while were on 613s. Saw where someone had ditched the cat drive motor for the elevator; and rigged up a modified drive from a hitachi ex60 track motor to drive the elevator. Owner is very happy with it works better than original ever did. Just another idea to keep in the back of ones mind if you own a 613.

 

[HSV127]

Thanks for all the info guys, as usual the people on this site are a wealth of knowledge!

Brainzie, D6 Merv, I have talked to Trackworks, those diffs sound pretty good but was hoping to just get the part I need to repair mine as it is in good condition other than that.

 

[scraperad]

That diff head Brainzie is refering to was out of a 966 we found the spline on the axels were different cant remember what the differences were. number of teeth I think. We put the replacement diff head into the machine and went to put the axels in and they wouldnt fit. Had to use a few of the good parts out of the old diff.

Cheers
Alan

 

[parkeng]

Hi Hsv. Hope the repair has gone well.I had trouble with my 615 in that on a hot day with longer hauls the final drive temps would creep up.l reduced the temp by20 degrees in over filling the diff/final drive (common). Touch wood the magnetic bungs have stayed clean.Hi oil temps reduce the oils ability for the rating you require.If you think your temps are still to high you may want to look at a synthetic oil .I stayed with the hypoid oils and added an additive.The heat generated from wheel spin can add to high temps very quickly.Goodluck Cheers Alan .