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[cfherrman]

Not sure on the batt life but I did watch their video where there were driving a fully loaded truck on the hills, was pretty epic. A 600 kw motor is also a 600 kw brake.

 

[92U 3406]

Could be a good advantage on a logging truck since you're usually running up the mountain empty and coming down loaded.

My concern would be the mud and all the water required to clean off all that mud. Heading in to spring breakup that mud gets axle deep and it covers everything.

 

[Birken Vogt]

You could never carry a battery large enough to make a difference. Battery life would be measured in minutes with the hills around here.

 

[DMiller]

Do not see that functioning all that well in Greater US NW or the Central Ozarks hilly regions, not long enough Downgrade braking regen where uphill battles remove battery life quickly.

 

[cfherrman]

I can't remember their pitch on batt life, the batteries are hot swappable by fork lift and are huge, take up the underside below the cab on both sides.

I don't think I'd use it for logging unless you leave the shop and go pick up the logs and deliver and then come back to the shop.

 

[AusDave]

I think the battery life on some of the Janus trucks was around 500 km which is a decent distance on logging roads in Australia. Contrary to what was seen on the video, most of the logging areas in Australia are in mountainous country with some very basic roads. Lots of regen opportunity.
Most logging operations don't operate when it's too wet. Just cuts up roads and logging sites which then have to be resheeted with roadbase/gravel and rehabilitated. So mud wouldn't be much of an issue.

And yes, the batteries are hot swappable in minutes and the savings in fuel costs are substantial. In Australian regional areas diesel is expensive. Around $9 Australian per gallon.
The horsepower and torque on these electric trucks would put the low powered US trucks to shame

 

[DMiller]

Question, are these using Commercial truck Tirs or as with Tesla and the associated Electric only vehicles here, required to use a tire rated for excess torque from electric motors?

 

[John C.]

Just to play devils advocate, logging here involves mostly climbing the mountains empty and the loaded haul out is mostly down hill. The real issue is the distance between the logging operation and the sawmill dump. Haulback could provide info on how far a typical haul might run.

 

[Truck Shop]

Around here typical is loading in the Blue Mountains S.E. of Pendleton Or, then to Lewiston Id.
170 miles one way give or take. Some loads go to Elgin Or, still 55 to 65 miles one way. A few
years back it was long hauling logs from the Cascades near Cle Elum to Elgin Or. Odd seeing
a loaded log truck in the desert at Vernita Ferry. A load of big sage brush.

 

[92U 3406]

BC used to have a mill in just about every major town 25-30 years ago. Seems like most have shut down since then. Bet its common to get 1-2 loads a day in now depending on what mill the wood is going to.

 

[Birken Vogt]

The mills around here are in the Central Valley as well. Not many of any size up in the hills for 30 years or so.

 

[cuttin edge]

This thing is 1000HP

 

[Former Wrench]

In Western WA the real story is once the truck is off-road and on gravel. There are so many "ups & downs" that the bottom end of the 18 speed is in constant use. On the other hand, you will just have to plug that 14 mile long extension cord into the log shovel overnight and hope the machine gets enough charge to put out a full shift the next day.

 

[cfherrman]

The motor in the Janus trucks will put almost every truck engine to shame.

Full power at 0 rpm.

 

[John C.]

The motor in the Janus trucks will put almost every truck engine to shame.

Full power at 0 rpm.

I think everyone accepts that statement. The real question is "for how long?"

 

[Truck Shop]

I showed a friend of mine that's been in the logging business all his life this part of this thread.
He just sat there shaking his head. Quote {On steep ground once it breaks traction I don't give
$hit how much power you have chained up or not. Your going to be yard'in on her with the 6
or what ever you got. I've worked hill sides in spring, you dragger in then slide your a$$ to the
bottom on a taboggan run using the hand valve to drag you into the ditch on the corners to
slow you down. That old 1950 KW of my dads had a 220 with a 5x4 in some ways it was better
it didn't have the power to dig to china find the right gear it had just enough to pull it's self
through. I can just see that battery truck setting dead while one drives past just a smoking
and rattling on down. Steve.}

 

[CM1995]

And yes, the batteries are hot swappable in minutes and the savings in fuel costs are substantial. In Australian regional areas diesel is expensive. Around $9 Australian per gallon.
The horsepower and torque on these electric trucks would put the low powered US trucks to shame

As long as there is a steady supply of hot swappable batteries.

 

[92U 3406]

I'm almost thinking battery swaps are the only real way to make EV's economical. Standardize the batteries and make them able to be swapped out in 10 minutes. Buy your electric car and just pay a flat fee to swap out the discharged battery with a fresh one.

 

[Truck Shop]

I can just see a issue with changing out a battery that took a dump in 10" of mud.

 

[JaredV]

Or climbing a 15% grade with just a few feet to the ditch and not much more to the edge of the cliff.