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Cat 3176 engine

Discussion in 'Trucks' started by Willis Bushogin, Oct 24, 2009.

  1. Willis Bushogin

    Willis Bushogin Senior Member

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    I am looking at buying a dump truck, with a Cat 3176 engine. My question is ONLY, how do this engines hold up.
    I know the story with the 3116 & 3126, just wondered if this was another junker engine. I dont have any problem with the power it has, it will do the work I need it to, but will this kind of engine hold up. It only has 125,000 miles
    Thanks for any reply
     
  2. Red Bank

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    Willis, the trucking company I worked at had all three of those Cat engines in their "city " trucks-single axle day cabs. I liked the 3176, I think it was an "ok" engine, better than the other two. I can't remember any problems that occurred only to that engine, maybe someone else can weigh in, we did have a Cat recall on one of those engines, might have been the 3176-the recall was to replace the rear head bolt-they would break. Easy to replace-pull the dog box, it was the rear most head bolt-since it has been so long chances are the one you are looking at has been done. If it was me, I would not hesitate to buy it-assuming the rest of the truck is ok:D
     
  3. Willis Bushogin

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    thanks for the info
     
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    we run 3176 engines in our older cat underground scoop trams.

    I think they are a 3176C, no real complains about them, seem to hold up well in a tough environment. As for problems, top of my head, 1 engine @ just over 10,000hrs had a cam go bad, oil pan gasket leaks now and then but that isn't major, odd injector needing to be replaced.
     
  5. Willis Bushogin

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    Well I bought the truck today, got to do some painting, etc. The engine really runs good, no smoke, seems to have good power (or enough power)
    should have it ready to work in about a week.
    I will keep you posted of any engine problems
     
  6. Willis Bushogin

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    3176 dump truck KW

    Made alot of progress, since last posted. A little history on the truck
    94 KW T800, tandem dump.
    The previous owner started building this truck about 2 years ago. It was a road tractor and he replaced the engine, with a used engine (105,000 miles) double framed the chassis, installed a walker beam rears, with double lockers and started installing a dump bed.
    What I did, in the last 5 days
    sanded, primed and painted the dump bed
    body work on the hood, little fiberglass work, primed and painted 2 coats
    painted cab
    installed hood and wiring
    hooked up air lines and valve to air tail gate
    installed new tires and brakes (got the parts with the truck)
    replaced heater core (what a job)
    hooked up A/C compressor and lines, flushed system and serviced. Its still kinda warm in our area
    Installing trailer hitch next, wiring to lights and new bumper, new seat, etc

    Pictures to follow
     
  7. Willis Bushogin

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    pictures, if I can remember how to post them. Still work in progress, but Im getting there
     

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    Willis, I think you are in the wrong business, the KW really looks good, could I talk you into painting my Mack?:drinkup
     
  9. Willis Bushogin

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    Bring it down to New Bern, be glad to do it. I think its going to look good, with all the chrome stuff installed. Its been crappy wx, here lately and didnt do much to the truck. New bumper should be here on Tuesday.
     
  10. Steve Frazier

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    looks great so far! I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of it. How much material will you be able to haul with that? With our weight laws in NY it wouldn't be much, we rarely see ten wheelers anymore, most straight trucks are tri-axles with a lift pusher.
     
  11. Willis Bushogin

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    This is kinda a light weight truck, as dump trucks go. Im sure based on my other trucks, it will haul around 16 tons, on the other side of the truck, is a drop axle I am going to install, it should haul around 19 tons then, with that bridge law thingee. I have a 97 Ford L9000 Triaxle and it hauls 19-20 tons legal
    The KW has double locking rears, it should pull real good, off road, 466 rears

    I know everyone has heard of the Wright Bros Memorial, in Kill Devil Hills, NC, its where they made one of the first airplane flights. I live about 4 hours from there and I just got a 3-4 months job hauling in the area. Work is slow, so ya, gotta do, what ya gotta do
     
  12. Willis Bushogin

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    Almost finished, just some wiring, boards on the dump body, paint chassis. I had to rebuild the tailgate today, someone had hauled big boulders and crushed it in.
    Now lets see if I can post the pictures
     

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    Nice truck! What transmission does it have?
     
  14. Willis Bushogin

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    right now it has a 13 speed, with 4:66 rears. Im not sure how this is going to work out, hope to put it to work, in about a week. Still doing work on it when I get time. I had to rebuild the tailgate, this weekend, someone had really done some damage to it. Got new side boards installed and new seat, work in progress, but I think its turning out great.
     
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    I agree its a nice looking truck
     
  16. Willis Bushogin

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    Thanks, I really take pride in my work and trucks. I think its very important to have a nice looking trucks, it does help with the DOT (stops for inspection) and when your truck roll up on a new job, its that first impression it makes with the new customers. The chrome came with the truck, so Im not saying, you have to buy a bunch of chrome, but a clean/washed truck just looks good
     
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    Got the truck on the road last week, pulls good. Its not a 500hp engine, but it pulls the load. I installed a barn door kit, so I could haul debris and big rock. I agree the 10 wheelers are not popular anymore, I kept trading up, until I got all quads. It seems like everything is quads now, everyone wants to pay by the tons and if you cant carry the tonnage, you dont make much $$$$
    My quads are on a pretty long state job, so I needed a truck to help me with my small hauling work and septic business. A friend of mine, has been putting this truck together and I got it from him. I have a drop axle to put on it, maybe in a few weeks
    I also installed 18,000 lb springs on the front axles, in place of the 12,000 lbs

    Still have a problem with the speedometer not working. I havent spent much time on this, but the tranny that is installed now, is a different one. It has a four wire sensor in the tranny, but I cant find the wiring harness that goes to the sensor. Tach works, so I guess i will work on the speedometer later. 1600 rpm is 55mph
     
  18. RobVG

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    Willis that truck really looks sharp!

    So what kind of paint did you use for the dump bed?

    [I've always wanted to try my hand at painting. We have 2 dump truck and trailers that are looking pretty bad. I don't think I can make them look worse.
    I looked into it and the original dupont ("SuperSomethingOrOther") paint was $140/gal and the hardener (reducer?) was $120/gal.]
     
  19. Willis Bushogin

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    The paint I use, depends on the condition of the bed. If its a so so bed (not great condition) I either use Rustolem Gloss Black or ??? its about $35 a gal and you dont need any hardener. It really works good for the price.
    The cab and real good beds, I use the 2 part paint from Napa. I dont remember the name, but its their bottom line two part paint. I think all the stuff cost about $275. Another place has Eason paint, its a two part paint, it comes in a kit (paint, reducer, hardeder) yes thats 3 part, for some reason Ive always called it two part paint. I think the Eason kit is about $225. Its good paint also.
    I would practice on the beds, one important thing is make sure its clean, remove any rust and coat it with primer. I remommend getting a good paint gun, I have been using the same Binks 67 gun for 25 years. I just bought a new Binks gun, I have tried the cheap $30 guns, you get what you pay for.
    After you feel good with painting beds, jump out there and do a cab. The thing on the cab is weather, I paint all my stuff outside, so I have to pick the weather. Dont paint in the PM, the night moisture will cause the paint to lose its shine. Prepare the truck, the day before and cover it with plastic. Wipe the cab with a auto paint degreaser, lint free rag. Get the paint salesman, to show you how to mix the paint, its easy once to understand the ratio. On big jobs, just mix the paint a gun full at a time, in case you put too much hardener in one batch, you havent lost all the paint.
    OK thats enough, my finger is sore from typing LOL
    Last thing, you need a good air compressor, I painted for years with a air compressor from Sears ($150) you just had to watch what you were doing and wait for it to pump up. I am not a professional painter, but I getter done.
    Nothing to it, give it a try, when it warms up, unless you have a shop, you need around 60 degrees at least
    Good Luck
     
  20. RobVG

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    Thanks Willis, that's the kind of information I need.:notworthy

    I have a few more questions but I'll wait a bit until your finger feels better...