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bad day for boss

ship660

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So guy call me and says had a problem today. Guess a couple truck drivers just dumped and where heading to reload when one driver pulled up hoe operator needed him to move closer. Driver 2 had already pulled up behind driver 1. Both drivers and hoe operator parked. Driver 1 puts truck in reverse and starts to back. Driver 2 sees him backing so starts to back up as well then gets scared and stops. Of course driver 1 backs into driver 2. Who's to blame? I say all 3 of the operators but what do I know I turn wrenches. Anyway estimated cost to repair was around $25,000. Cant find a used hood since the truck is too new. One guy suggested taking hood to a body shop and see if they could repair it. waiting to see what parts he can get.740 damage 8.jpg740 damage 2.jpg740 damage 7.jpgcac 740.jpg
 

ship660

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I gave him that response when he called me. Don"t think he was impressed. Stoped by to look at it and told him I could weld cooler no problem, Fix cac pipe, and change out all other parts. Not much of a body man so didn't even say I could do anything with hood. He did say the hood cost from CAT was going to be around $9,000 bare.
 

ScottAR

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I have a customer with a small cottage industry in repairing JD tractor hoods. 3m semi rigid epoxy and fiber mesh patch. Bondo and paint.
Most of the biggish deere hoods are $8k ish.
 

kshansen

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Backp cameras are good, but even they won't prevent an operator reversing into another machine or an inanimate object. All they do is let him see what he hit without having to leave the cab.......

That's assuming the operator takes his eyes off his cell phone long enough to look at the screen. Make something idiot proof and management will hire a "better" idiot!
 

Nige

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G..G..G..Granville.........!! Fetch your cloth.
Our operators were forced to leave their cell phones in the change house lockers. They could only get at them at breaks and meal times. Anyone caught using a cell phone while operating was subject to instant dismissal. No ifs, but, whys, or wherefores - simply escorted off the property by security with a DCB (don't come back) letter to follow.
 
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Oxbow

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While I agree with all the aforementioned sentiment in regard to back-up cameras and cell phones, I think that any operation running 2 or more trucks with a hoe loading and most likely a dozer and compaction equipment receiving material should have radio communication. Not just to help prevent accidents like this, but to improve efficiency.

:my2c
 

SidewinderGlenn

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I told all of my truck drivers (20 on-road quad axles)on the job a few days ago that they should wear gloves ... because there seems to be something in the steering wheel plastic that kills brain cells.

20 trucks bringing fill in to a building site is like herding cats !
 

pafarmer

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Our operators were forced to leave their cell phones in the change house lockers. They could only get at them at breaks and meal times. Anyone caught using a cell phone while operating was subject to instant dismissal. No ifs, but, whys, or wherefores - simply escorted off the property by security with a DCB (don't come back) letter to follow.

I don't allow cell phones either while on the clock. These kids today covet them like they couldn't live without the Friggin things ! If I catch them With one in any of my equipment during working hours they are dismissed on the spot. I come from the old school and if your paying attention to your phone, you are not paying attention to your work and more Importantly lhe people around you. No IPOD's with ear buds either. All my equipment, including rock truck and over the road trucks are equipped with back up camera's. I have seem a noted reduction in damage since I started using them on everything I OEM. Even the Chevy diesel P/U have them. Great lpeice of kit in my opinion and well worth the small expense...most operators that are continually interacting allot during the course of the day have 2 way radios as well for an added. Safety measure. I could never live with myself if someone got hurt because I failed to supply them with everything possible to help ensure their personal safety on my job sites....
 

lantraxco

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While I agree with all the aforementioned sentiment in regard to back-up cameras and cell phones, I think that any operation running 2 or more trucks with a hoe loading and most likely a dozer and compaction equipment receiving material should have radio communication. Not just to help prevent accidents like this, but to improve efficiency.

:my2c

I agree... like the voice operated head sets, but with a group of operators and truck drivers on it would probably sound like an old hens session.
 

ship660

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The trucks do have back up cameras and all operators have radios to communicate. Just one of those things where many mistakes took place.
 

pafarmer

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Accidents happen.... Not much can be done to remain indefinitely 100 percent accident free....we use allot of two ways these days as well. Skidding turns to a landing where at certain points along the trail only one skidder can pass, so it critical those guys get a rythem and communicate or things can get stupid quick. Too many guys on two ways gives me a major headache.
 

kshansen

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Have to agree with the idea of keeping cell phones out of equipment. People will try to say they need to be available to be reached in an emergency. If it is really important then they should tell kids/spouse to call the front office. Only difference I could see if someone was working at a remote location by themselves which is not suppose to happen but I see it all the time where I worked. That was about the only time I would carry my cell phone when doing repairs on a machine.
 

catfixer

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back when I was at the kitty cat dealer we had a customer with 2 brand new 740b's right when they first came out. operator decided to go up a down haul road. head on collision. ended up breaking engine block on one, transmission housing on the other, and both of them had to get front frames swapped. not a good day.
 

Cmark

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Yep. If you use the front of your 740 as a brake you need to make sure you've got good insurance.

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