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Would You Haul it ??

Reece38

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i know this is an old thread but here is my two cents, one binder per chain. never use the same chain to secure two separate corners even if there is plenty of slack in the middle ( a guy told me a DOT gave him a ticket for it), i dont have a problem with it i just dont want any more tickets so i try to do what others have paid for. im pretty sure there is a picture of this being done on the first or second page. i always use the four corners/four chains and binders rule.
 

Fastdirt

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I can't believe post #217, that looks so dangerous.

Here is one I found on my local CL. Not looking secure there. Wow.
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Fastdirt, I agree it's not secure enough for me to haul, but for some unexplainable reason, I really like the truck and trailer set up..... You can call me crazy, I don't mind
 

ben46a

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It is a neat looking setup, but up here we would only be allowed 48,000 lbs gross, and I'm guessing the truck and trailer would be in the 20,000 range.
 

Fastdirt

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No, I would not haul it. I really like this thread but usually a post means somebody is pushing the limits. Here's 17,000 lbs. on single wheels. Saw this Sunday.

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CM1995

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Doug, from the pictures that truck is overloaded. Not good for the truck or public safety.
 

Old Doug

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It does look like a load for that pickup. The cars many weigh 12000 at the most.
 

mitch504

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If the cars weigh 12,000, and the trailer weighs....unless it's one of those new-fangled ones with the helium filled frame? :D
 

JDOFMEMI

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The total weight don't look bad, if it was on a dually, but I bet he is well over the weight rating for the rear axle. The hitch weight on the trailer looks to be around 6K to 7K, then with the truck tare, the rear axle may be around 8 to 9. Too much for single tires, in my opinion.
 

David427

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Nothing wrong with it at all. He has a overkill six point tie down set up. I don't know if I would have bothered with the fork carriage, it's probably a corporate policy.

Need bigger chains? Huh, what? I really can't tell if those are 3/8 or 1/2 but 3/8 G80 chains using a 6 point contact would be good for a DOT/FMCSA rated binding load of around 85k lb. Seems slightly sufficient for a what, 30k lb machine. :D

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/cargo-securement/cargo-securement-rules

It's a good guess that a low bed driver for Hertz probably knows what he is doing. Corporate safety training out the wazoo and it being his full time job and all.

Most drivers use ratchet binders now because we all have a snap binder story but there is nothing wrong with them at all.

Opps, didn't realize I was comment on the original post of a thread that was 16 pages deep. :D

Shouldn't it be illegal for truck drivers to be in a heavy equipment forum anyway? :D
 
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David427

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If you look closely you can see the chains on the front right behind the bucket (assuming the other side is done too). It looks like the rear chains are secured to his engine guard, don't know if that's valid tie down point or if there are tie down pad eyes right behind it. We stopped using shovel dozers around here in the early 80s. :)

I can't believe post #217, that looks so dangerous.

Here is one I found on my local CL. Not looking secure there. Wow.
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Fastdirt

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I saw this guy on the side of 285 in heavy traffic on the way home. I thought to myself when I saw him on the side of the highway I thought that just does not look right. It wasn't five minutes later and he was passing me on the right. As soon as he passes me he again pulls into the emergency lane and stops. I personally would not haul this. Seems like a job for a trailer.

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