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Would You Haul it ??

OzDozer

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We never used to chain our dozers down when working in the wheatbelt for farmers. You'd sometimes only move a few kms to the next job, and the move would occupy far less time, than the time taken to chain down!
Besides, you'd be lucky to see 2 or 3 other vehicles a day, so the traffic wasn't even a consideration. Even taking a tractor back home to the shop, in 50kms or 80kms, you might only pass half a dozen vehicles.
In heavy traffic, or on highways, or over long distances, chaining down is a necessary part of travel. The whole thing about tie-down is that its really designed to stop any initial movement, that creates a whole heap more problems.
If a trailer rolls, its rare to see a chained load stay together with the trailer, and all the chains stay intact. In most cases, the chains just reduce the overall level of damage, by preventing the load from being flung further than it would be, if it wasn't restrained.

I hate seeing chain links being pulled over sharp edges and corners, this is good way to totally negate any chaining down. If one link fractures because it was pulled over a sharp edge, there goes all your chaining down efforts.
I can recall a bad smash many years ago, when an East-West truckie left Sydney or Melbourne for Perth. He had a loader bucket chained down at the front of the semi-trailer. He travelled about 90% of his trip without any problems - but unknown to him, a chain link had broken where it was pulled over a sharp edge of the bucket. The constant bouncing of 2,500 miles of travel had broken the link, and he never noticed it, in the dark of night.

There was a sharpish bend in the Gt Eastern Hwy about 30 or 40kms East of Merredin. The truckie approached this bend late at night, right at the same time as an East-West 45 or 50 passenger coach approached from the other direction.
They passed right on the bend, and the truckie obviously leaned hard into the sharp bend. Right at that point, the bucket broke free, and launched itself off the semi.
It smacked right into the coach windscreen, killing the driver instantly, and destroying the entire front of the coach. Luckily it was flat country, the bus ran off the hwy out of control, but stopped without hitting anything, and stayed upright.
If the bucket had smashed into the side of the coach, it would have taken the side right out of it, and the death toll would have been in the dozens.
 

D_Young_747

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Anybody got some more info? So far the pricing i have got is out of my range thus far. Need to find someone with a backload, and a large enough trailer to not have to totally dismantle it.
 

JDOFMEMI

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Where are you moving it?
Any public road move is likely going to require some amount of disassembly to get it to dimensions that will be allowed.

Also, the linked specs say 167,000 KG, but I am pretty sure it is a misprint and is really Lbs
 

mitch504

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gonna have to remove the cab to take it almost anywhere, even on a rail trailer. That height is hard to deal with. This won't be a backhaul for anybody.
 

heavylift

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removing the cab and tires would get it to about 12 feet high and 10 wide. with the arms and bucket removed.

my guess would be around 8 truck loads, maybe less.
 

D_Young_747

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I would be more than happy with ten thousand, but I don't have 60 to ship it like what I'm seeing as quotes, and I still handle all the crossing papers at that. It needs to move from Dubois, PA to Maidstone, SK. I'm trying to find reasonable shipping before I do agree to purchase it, and at 60k I'd rather find a rental trailer(which may be near impossible) and go get it myself.
 

Nige

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Not a shipping expert by any means but here are a few thoughts to get the overall weight/measurements of the unit down to reduce the shipping cost but you could be robbing Peter to pay Paul if the cost of disassembly/reassembly exceeds the reduction in freight costs. Remove: -

1. Bucket.
2. Tyres/wheels.
3. Rear counterweight/fuel tank.

These 3 will get both the height, width, & total weight down significantly, although they do have the disadvantage that the machine can't drive itself on or off the lowboy. It may also be necessary or desirable to remove the cab and anything else exhaust/air filter/handrail related up on top. That would get the height down even more. Does the cab come off in one piece or is it like some cabs that "split" at the level of the bottom of the windshield..? If it's the latter I'd surely take the top half of the cab off, a harder decision if the cab has to come off in one piece.

You might be able to load all of items included in 1-3 above on a single 40ft flat deck trailer. So that would get your machine down to basically 2 loads.
 
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ben46a

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Oh hell, I assumed you were getting it from the prairies. 60 is pretty reasonable then. Your crossing a whole country, every state requires different permits. And escorts. You won't be moving a machine that big on one trailer in one trip. Its going to take at least 4 trips and a couple cranes. That's the only way. Its too big and too heavy.
 

JDOFMEMI

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For a move like that, 60K is about what I would expect.
It is multiple loads, and I believe you will not have a choice buut to remove the cab and all exhaust for height. I had to do that on a 990 Cat moved recently, and it is much smaller. You will have to remove the bucket, and possibly some counterweight. I am not sure how the 475 is set up for that.
The big question is to remove the tires, or leave them on. Eastern US regulations are typically more strict than out West where I am familiar with. By the time you remove those items, if the tires are included, that will likely be two flatbed loads, due to the weight.

The remainder of the machine will be a load for a 9 to 13 axle combination, and good luck finding any heavy hauler who will rent out a trailer like that.

Add to that that each state will require permits, odd routing due to the height, even after the cab is removed, but less if the tires are off too, and most likely 2 pilot cars the whole trip, plus the regulations for crossing the border. Another interesting thing is weights legal in US are different than Canada. I know a hauler taking large items to Canada who has to unload them, reconfigure the trailer, and reload in order to get from the US into Canada. All these things add time and money that there is no way around.

The cost of moving it has a lot to do with the cheap sales price for the loader.

Good luck, whichever way you go.
 
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