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Working the National 1300A

Discussion in 'Cranes' started by Natman, Jan 3, 2017.

  1. The Peej

    The Peej Well-Known Member

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    What's all that white stuff?
     
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    That's "fertilizer"!
     
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    Mmmm greasy.
     
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    I finally got my actual CCO card, and it says my designation is "TLL".??
     
  5. DMiller

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    What is That????
     
  6. Natman

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    Beats me, and googling the term just gets me a bunch of sites offering training. I'm trained and certed, but for what I don't know! I am pretty sure I mentioned to the instructor at the start of the course, that my 30 ton National rider boom truck was what I was operating and needed to get certed for. No matter, I'm going to work Monday morning same as usual, just curious. I can always contact them NCCCO I guess.
     
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    I have no idea how, but that denotes Telescopic, Swing Cab.
     
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    It used to be "telescopic large" (TLL) and "telescopic small" (TSS) as two telescopic categories. Back when they only had 4 categories- telescopic large and small, and lattice boom- crawler and truck.

    They actually separate telescopic now by swing cab and fixed cab, but I think they kept the old letters.

    A cynical person would say that all the new categories are simply a money grab to make you have to get more certs and they can make more $$$ for each separate test they can make you take, but we aren't supposed to talk about regulation as being a scam to extort money from people trying to make a living. That would be bad.

    Because its definitely needed to separate Articulating Boom Cranes, and Articulating Boom Cranes With Winch, and Articulating Loader Cranes as all separate categories. Its about the children.

    If you would have turned over your card, they list all the categories on the back. Or at least they are on mine.

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  9. Natman

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    Darn, I was hoping to delete my post before someone here pointed out IT'S ON THE BACK OF THE CARD!! Bad enough I asked here, would have been even worse if I had contacted the NCCCO tomorrow.
     
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    Minor error all is forgiven:D
     
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    @crane operator they have actually pared down one of the categories, they no longer have the boom truck ( BTF ) cert. Now it is wrapped up with any neck bender. ( TSS )
     
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    They have 3 knuckleboom certs? I wonder what exactly they consider an Articulating Boom Loader.
     
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    the sheetrock fork guys. It is quite the operation.
    I could only test in the straight knuckle no winch, no forks.
    My card has everything from ABC on up.
    After December I am dropping the tower.
     
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    I'm curious hanging stuff(grapple, clamshell, forks) off a normal knuckle brings it into loader crane.
     
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    The forks swivel and tilt and add a whole level of complexity. the standard knuckle just gives you a fixed hook no winch.
    The winch equipped knuckles have obvious advantages.
     
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    This Costa Vida restaurant sign pole got jammed up, part way down, on a very rare Sunday morning job. It took some torch work and some finagling (and a 8 K pull) to get it free but once out the sign guys got busy with the torch and the next time it slipped right in as it should have the first time. One of those times I like to think "NOT MY PROBLEM, I'M JUST THE CRANE GUY." No shock loading occurred, up or down, my main concern, it weighed 6K. A good crew made it unexciting. Going back tomorrow for the sign set.
     

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    Several times, in doing my job, I have gotten access to areas normally off limits, I find this to be a job bonus, for someone like me anyway who likes to see how things work IMG_20211109_090615305.jpg . Like this HVAC job at the Ma Bell big old brick building in town, jammed packed with rows of these servers or relay stations, or whatever the heck they are. No way could I see all this ever, if not for the fact I needed to get up on the roof, fun stuff. Even better, all my usual construction jobsites were all mudded up from the recent and current storms, and I was working on a level city street.
     
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    Crane can be good that way. :D
     
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    Since the new station right down the road 1.5 miles from my yard went in, with it's truck stop style dual pumping stations, I've been playing around with checking my fuel usage. 63 mph on the freeway, 5.5 MPG, which I remember from when I drove it back from Wisconsin when I bought it. But the latest check up really surprised me: I filled both tanks, drove the 1.5 mile to my shop, the next morning drove 1 mile further to my job (a rare close job) and than swung trusses from 7 to 2, with the engine on constantly. Then I drove back to the station, used the same pumps, and the same method to fill it.

    So, with 7 hrs. of working it, and 5 miles of 45 mph driving, no stops. LESS THAN 7 GALLONS OF DIESEL USED! 6.89 gallons. I was as exact as can be in how I determined it "filled", same flow rate, same foaming to same point in the filler neck, but even with a 25% error factor, that is still pretty amazing to me. I will NOT tell my customers this, none of their business, I do tell them about the 5.5 MPG though! 425 HP Mack. I was guesstimating more like 3-5 GPH for some reason....but since the vast majority of my work involves mountainous travel time, the on the road MPG was a known, the working it GPH not so much. Let's call it 12 gallons AT MOST (25% error), still only 1.7 GPH. If the 6.89 was accurate, about 1 GPH. Good news, with the fuel prices these days, $3.93 here.
     
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