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Where are the labororers?

Discussion in 'Personnel' started by Cropduster, Aug 17, 2008.

  1. Cropduster

    Cropduster Active Member

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    OK. I am in New England. Weather is good right now. We have work, we pay fair wages, benefits. Supposedly economy sucks, and no one has a job, right? We can't get laborers. Up until last year, we would get college kids home for vacation in the summer, and always had people asking for full time. Now they just want intern jobs at insurance companies. We aren't asking them to drive a truck, run a machine, just stop traffic or run the old PH shovel. The people we have on board have all been there for years, but we can't get any laborers. What up with that?
     
  2. HeyUvaVT

    HeyUvaVT Senior Member

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    everyone wants the easy jobs...or they want to jump right into the operators seat
     
  3. oisinirish

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    We have the same problem. Move from state to state at least once per year and the headache of finding decent labor almost makes it worthwhile to pay travel and keep the same labor.
    I don't know what's wrong with some people these days but I started at the bottom and much better for it. Too much instant gratifcation as seen on TV I guess.
     
  4. Cropduster

    Cropduster Active Member

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    Understood, but I would rather work on a job site for 20 an hour than flip burgers for 7.
     
  5. PROCUT1

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    Learn a little spanish and you'll be all set.

    Gave up on American labor years ago
     
  6. JOE 535

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    We tryed mexican labor here in louisiana they are just like all the rest, some good and some bad.
     
  7. JPCobra105

    JPCobra105 Well-Known Member

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    i have the same problem here on long island. get a guy to show up for a week gets the first pay check and never here from them again... its all college kids who only need a few bucks and dont wanna work. most of them will flip burgers in the a/c for the 7$. its getting to be a pain. i dont know about where you guys are, but the mexican labor here is 120$ a day cash (8 hours) plus lunch and transportation. what can you do.
     
  8. PROCUT1

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    Mexican labor will cost you quite a bit more than Americans but they are worth it.
     
  9. curly

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    Not even going to address the wrongness of that.
     
  10. digger242j

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    We do try to stay away from ethnic sterotypes and commentary here at HEF.

    I do think it's fair to say that immigrants in general may bring a strong work ethic with them to anyplace they relocate. It's why they've bothered to chase opportunity outside of their native lands.

    That's what made America great in the first place, isn't it?
     
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    Makes me wonder what made Australia Great Mate!.......All my ancestors came her on a free ticket...you know, the Governor's pleasure:rolleyes:
     
  12. OneWelder

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    Cropduster where are you located ? In southern Part ?
    One thing about New England - drive 5 min. and the weather is different. Yesterday is the first day this month that did not rain hard at least part of the day. By the fifth of the month we had already recieved monthly average, and right now are tied with the fourth all time yearly record. Should be easy to break with four more months to go.
    Work ethics ( and peoples Att.) have changed a lot since I entered work force. Back then if you were not in hospital employers gave you major att.- Now a dentist app. for the kid is considered a good reason for a day off. So not surprising they take easy over money
     
  13. digger242j

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    Well, it just makes a very harsh criticism of the English legal system back then, that they could misjudge so many fine and hardworking individuals and punish them so unjustly. :mad:

    (Either that, or it's a real feather in the cap of His Majesty's penal system, that they could turn such a bunch of rif-raff into solid citizens...)

    :cool2
     
  14. curly

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    Well how can I raise mischief then?:cool2
     
  15. tonka

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    Just hit up a Home Depot and pick up your day labor.......
     
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    WTF??????

    Me either. Seems like I STAY pissed off lately (sigh):Banghead
     
  17. oisinirish

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    I hate to say it but people have become complacent and believe they DESERVE all the benefits of the american dream.
    I believe they saying is..."the pursuit of happiness". To me that means it must be earned. But lately it seems that if you can fill out the application and show to work on the first day it should be given out like candy on halloween.
    If you're lazy fired. I have taken a harder line in recent times and have much less patience for this "I'm owed the easy money" attitude. I'll glady run the revolving door even if it means I have to spend more time training and "hovering" to get and keep good people.
     
  18. mikef87

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    I've asked my sons friends if they wanted a job for the summer paying them good money, teach them a thing or two, but when you tell them "yeah, be down the shop at 6 to pick the tool truck up and drive to the job." They back down, even though I'd be paying them for that hour. Kids are spoiled these days, when I was that age all my friends were in construction.
     
  19. curly

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    That's crazy. When I was a kid I helped a friend and his dad break up a driveway, mow lawns and helped another friends family demo and remodel their house. Oh did I mention I got paid NOTHING for that? It was fun and educational, the little turds now want nothing to do with learning, cause it's cool to be a fool it would seem.
     
  20. SKOAL

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    lol every time i went to a company i had to prove my self as a laborer first ,and most of the time it was with operators with no feel or grade percetion