Wheel-dozers

[awful knawful]

This is our backup machine 1986 Michigan 280c. We use it at a pulp mill in New Brunswick Canada to push chips. Cummins powered. We used to have a 1978 Clark 280 Detroit powered but the company sold it off.
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[Dug Overburden]

Clark Michigan wheel dozers

Nice pictures of the 280C, sure wish they would have kept building them. They were a nice machine and gave Cat some competition. For compairson here is the cab layout on a 1984 280C.

 

[awful knawful]

Our cab has the same layout.

 

[qball]

red circle= brake
green circle= blade safety. it disables the blade control. it is a two way blade and a two way lever. no hyd pitch control.
the other pedals are the acclerator and declutch/brake.

 

[willemdegrader]

here are a few pics of a wheel dozer i spotted in germany.
It's a Zettelmeyer Zd 5001 used by the german army

 

[MKTEF]

It's a Zettelmeyer Zd 5001 used by the german army

I would say its a ZD 3000F.
The ZD5002 was built on their biggest loader with a straight 6 engine.

This little bugger got a V10 deutz engine.16L.
Maksimum speed at the road is 62 km/h.
Hydropneumatic suspention both front and back.
Blade has folding extensions so it can be roaded, 2,75m wide.
U can bearly se the suspention arms under at the back.
20t winch at the front.

This is German engineering at their best.(We talk about 1981!)
Here is a link to the brochure:
http://www.volvo.com/NR/rdonlyres/C485FB21-59F1-4F7F-A493-BE70086D2BA2/0/ZZD30013000F21xx9007.pdf

 

[Dug Overburden]

Zettlemeyer/Terex wheel dozers

I believe Terex marketed the same machine during th 1980's "IBH" era, but I am stumped on the model number. If I can find my old Terex product guide from the 1980's I will post a reference.

I just searched and found a photo in The Earthmover Encylopedia page 58. The Terex WD3000 was only in the product line 3 years 1981 to 1983. I do not know if any were sold the USA. Why would you buy this if you could buy an Cat 824C or a Clark 280B?

Here is a copy of a sales brochure,kind of funky looking as we are use to the sheet metal being taller.

Dug:usa

 

[willemdegrader]

I would say its a ZD 3000F.
The ZD5002 was built on their biggest loader with a straight 6 engine.

This little bugger got a V10 deutz engine.16L.
Maksimum speed at the road is 62 km/h.
Hydropneumatic suspention both front and back.
Blade has folding extensions so it can be roaded, 2,75m wide.
U can bearly se the suspention arms under at the back.
20t winch at the front.

This is German engineering at their best.(We talk about 1981!)
Here is a link to the brochure:
http://www.volvo.com/NR/rdonlyres/C485FB21-59F1-4F7F-A493-BE70086D2BA2/0/ZZD30013000F21xx9007.pdf

Thanks mktef..learned a bit more today!i posted these pictures on the dutch forum where they told me it's an zd 5001.

see next link for more wheel dozers!
http://www.bouwmachineforum.nl/forum/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=5568

 

[MKTEF]

Post some closeups please

I bet Ovrszd is interrested in your fenders. They are different compared to ours.
And i bet somebody likes your tires....

I am a user on that forum too, but my dutch is not so good, so i don't post so much over there...

 

[Taylortractornu]

I really like that Zettlymeyer, I like the looks of it and the 6 way blade. I have a friend of mine that got to operate one when he was about 25, it was on the Tenn Tom waterway I cant remember who had it I dont think it was M&K but Im not sure. It was on some of the finishing jobs. The company had gotten it from overseas on a job and brought it back to use as a high speed trench filler on a pipeline. I think his was actually the Terex Version but he kept reminding me that it had the Zettylmeyer logo casted i nalot of places underneath. Mikey says it was a super fast rig and was handy on alot of the mobile tasks but inoperapbe in the wet weather.

 

[Bellboy]

Mktef, where did you grab that pic of the MVO grader. I found MVO when I was looking for some 1:50 trucks, and one of the results was by Tema Toys, an MVO DAF CF 85 atriculated tipper, MVO seems to have an impressive portfolio.

 

[MKTEF]

This is not fair to Steve, but anyway:
www.bouwmachineforum.nl
Pics is under Volvo/roadbuildingmachinery/726.
A good site, but in Dutch....im lucky to be good in German/English and Norwegian so i recognize all the words.
HEF beats it anyway....

 

[willemdegrader]

Bellboy here's the link to the website of mvo;

http://www.mvogroep.nl/nl/

 

[Bellboy]

Thanks for the links, MKTEF and Willemdegrader.

I have already visited the MVO group's website, they seem like very busy people. Do you see them a lot Willemdegrader?

MKTEF: my Dutch is non existent, but my grandfather is Dutch, my grandmother is afrikaans, so between the and my dad, I can pretty much understand it, if i took the time, because my afrikaans reading skills suck.

 

[willemdegrader]

hello bellboy.

MVO is the company where I work.It's mostly specialised in dredging and (special techniques in)earthmoving,for 98% in the netherlands.because of the size of the loaders we use it's common that i cooperate with loaders of other company's (with smaller loaders).

 

[Bellboy]

Thats very interesting about MVO. How long have you been working for them?

Now for the rest of this rest of this thread:

Does anybody other than Cat make them? I heard that Komatsu made, but I can't find them. Suggestions?

 

[Dug Overburden]

Komatsu Wheel Dozers

Bellboy,

Komatsu makes a machine equivilent to a cat 834, Model number is WD600. It is based on the WA600 chassis.
There is also WD900 based to the WA900 chassis

Dug

Thats very interesting about MVO. How long have you been working for them?

Now for the rest of this rest of this thread:

Does anybody other than Cat make them? I heard that Komatsu made, but I can't find them. Suggestions?

 

[Deas Plant]

Wanna Bet???????????

Hello, Qball.
Do you wanna bet that that 814B doesn't have pitch control on the blade? Looking at that LONG blade tilt cylinder on the left side, I sure wouldn't bet that it doesn't have pitch control. All the Cat wheel dozers that I ever got to run had a skid plate under the back of the blade and you could pitch the blade back to run on that skid plate for cleaning up floors, etc..

My input on the controls:
Outside lever under operstor's right hand (yellow circle)- joystick blade hoist and tilt control.
Inside lever under operator's right hand (green circle)- blade pitch fore and aft.
Lever indicated by green arrow - diverter valve for pitch/ripper.
Far right pedal - accelerator.
Pedal in red circle - brake only pedal.
Left pedal - combined de-clutch/brake pedal - some models may be brake only.
Lever under steering wheel on left - forward/reverse with twist for speeds.
Red button under rear of steering wheel - park brake.
Box in blue circle - systems monitor with 'Murphy' light.

Just my 0.02.

 

[Bellboy]

Hello, Qball.
Do you wanna bet that that 814B doesn't have pitch control on the blade? Looking at that LONG blade tilt cylinder on the left side, I sure wouldn't bet that it doesn't have pitch control. All the Cat wheel dozers that I ever got to run had a skid plate under the back of the blade and you could pitch the blade back to run on that skid plate for cleaning up floors, etc..

My input on the controls:
Outside lever under operstor's right hand (yellow circle)- joystick blade hoist and tilt control.
Inside lever under operator's right hand (green circle)- blade pitch fore and aft.
Lever indicated by green arrow - diverter valve for pitch/ripper.
Far right pedal - accelerator.
Pedal in red circle - brake only pedal.
Left pedal - combined de-clutch/brake pedal - some models may be brake only.
Lever under steering wheel on left - forward/reverse with twist for speeds.
Red button under rear of steering wheel - park brake.
Box in blue circle - systems monitor with 'Murphy' light.

Just my 0.02.

Thanks for the input Deas. It seems as though you are quite right about the green diverter valve for the ripper/ blade pitch.

It seems as though the only speed available on this particular machine is forward, neutral, reverse. The operator demonstrated how the lever for the gear shift had to be jammed into forward or it would drift back into neutral, so any suggestions on that one?

Thanks for those pics Dug Overburden. Have you ever run one of them?

 

[Deas Plant]

Forward-reverse lever.

Hi, Bellboy.
Either worn linkage or something jamming it somewhere. If it happens to be the locating mechanism that is worn, I suspect that that is located inside the transmission, not a 5-minute fix.

That style of transmission control, at least all the ones that I saw, had 3 speeds available by twisting the handle - twist the top of the handle forward to change up or back to change down. You might like to check that if you get near enough again. There will most likely be the numbers 1 to 3 cast into a metal collar on the handle at the inner end of the plastic grip.

Have fun.