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Transporting fiberglass pools... oversize load questions..

RuskEnt

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I became a dealer for a fiberglass pool manufacture. Somehow as i was filling out all the paperwork and sending in a check, i forgot to think about acouple of things.

I am going to have to transport some pools from my yard to jobsites. The pools come on a semi from San Antonio. They can get 10 pools on a truck at a time. They tell me its a $10,000 trip from TX to NJ. However, they try their best to corodinate deliverys wither all their dealers on the east coast. Shipping should only cost me about 1500 a pool.

I thought i could just have the semi drop the pools off on site. But at some job sites there is no place to drop the pool. And if i order 5 pools at a time, i can't have pools sitting at houses for a month. Especially since the semi can only drop the pools curb side.

So i'm going to need a 36-40 ft gooseneck trailer. I have been reading the on the njdot website, and i am going to have to deal with oversized permits and all that. Do i have to hire a escort vehicle when required? Or could i just set one of my own trucks up with strobes?

Worst part is i am going to have to have a crane come and load up the pool at the yard.

Anyone have any suggestions for me?

Matt
 

thejdman04

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I became a dealer for a fiberglass pool manufacture. Somehow as i was filling out all the paperwork and sending in a check, i forgot to think about acouple of things.

I am going to have to transport some pools from my yard to jobsites. The pools come on a semi from San Antonio. They can get 10 pools on a truck at a time. They tell me its a $10,000 trip from TX to NJ. However, they try their best to corodinate deliverys wither all their dealers on the east coast. Shipping should only cost me about 1500 a pool.

I thought i could just have the semi drop the pools off on site. But at some job sites there is no place to drop the pool. And if i order 5 pools at a time, i can't have pools sitting at houses for a month. Especially since the semi can only drop the pools curb side.

So i'm going to need a 36-40 ft gooseneck trailer. I have been reading the on the njdot website, and i am going to have to deal with oversized permits and all that. Do i have to hire a escort vehicle when required? Or could i just set one of my own trucks up with strobes?

Worst part is i am going to have to have a crane come and load up the pool at the yard.

Anyone have any suggestions for me?

Matt

First off you need to deal w/nj's dot, since there the ones writing the tickets. You pry wont get a straight answer rom them if you call 5 times youllg et 5 answers. You need to ask them at what width signs and strobes are required and at what point an escort vehicle (in your case worthless) is required. In your case an escort vhecile wouldnt be anymore of a help then strobes and a sign but they still migh t make you ahve one. Since your going into residential areas most liley you areng onna be on class 1 highways, youll have to get permits. But on a side note,Personally Id look at some "pettibones" "shoot booms" "telescoping forklifts". They can be had 7,000, 8000 lb capacity up to 40 foot reach (at lower capacity) for around 10, 15k dollars, which isnt too bad when you price a crane if your doing it for many years. I would try to move the pools myself so you can do it on your schedule and a bit cheaper, or maybe even rent a shoot boom from your rent all (about 300 bucks a day plus diesel and delivery (around here) for one per day. usally day minimum rates. If your buying htat big of a trailer maybe buy a trailer heavy enough to haul a pettibone. I dont know how much those pools weigh , I know fiberglass weighs more then youd think but one of those Should handle it i would think, or maybe rent a pettibone when you can and hire a bigger crane when you ahve to for the big big pools.
 

OD Load

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if your going to be doing it you might want to look at a boom truck and get a trailer to go with it cutting out the crane on both ends

dealing with NJ Dot most states have blanket permits they are good for one year NJ does not route for oversize if you have questions on the route you want to take you call and talk to them about the routes they will tell you about bridges and so on as for escorts most states want them to hold a escort lic. for that state and with most states its a open book test

just do your homework before moving a load the cost of a ticket will make you sick if you really want to do this look up comdata on the pc and call them they have books for oversize loads might be more than you need but its about 75.00 for the book and the ticket for not knowing will be way more than the cost of the book

hope it helps
 

LowBoy

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I became a dealer for a fiberglass pool manufacture. Somehow as i was filling out all the paperwork and sending in a check, i forgot to think about acouple of things.

I am going to have to transport some pools from my yard to jobsites. The pools come on a semi from San Antonio. They can get 10 pools on a truck at a time. They tell me its a $10,000 trip from TX to NJ. However, they try their best to corodinate deliverys wither all their dealers on the east coast. Shipping should only cost me about 1500 a pool.

I thought i could just have the semi drop the pools off on site. But at some job sites there is no place to drop the pool. And if i order 5 pools at a time, i can't have pools sitting at houses for a month. Especially since the semi can only drop the pools curb side.

So i'm going to need a 36-40 ft gooseneck trailer. I have been reading the on the njdot website, and i am going to have to deal with oversized permits and all that. Do i have to hire a escort vehicle when required? Or could i just set one of my own trucks up with strobes?

Worst part is i am going to have to have a crane come and load up the pool at the yard.

Anyone have any suggestions for me?

Matt

Hey Matt, I noticed this post was a little old, but maybe this will still be of assistance.

You can easily apply for and obtain an annual NJ oversize load blanket permit to move your pools. Up to 12 feet wide, no escort is needed, over 14' 4" high, a pole car escort is required.

You'll need strobes, oversize load signs, and flags on all the extremities of the load, naturally.
A setup such as we have, a Ford F-550 with a 36 ft. Big Tex gooseneck trailer is a nice combination, and registers for around 22,ooo GVW, which is plenty for your operation. I can help with the spec'ing if need be at some point in time.

If I understand you correctly, you'll want to order several pools at once to keep shipping at a minimum. Are you considering a storage yard, or keeping them at your location? If so, there are several options for you to consider utilizing in terms of lifting equipment.

With budget as a primary concern, consider a good, used older truck mounted crane to stay at home and load them. Or for slightly more bling, a truck with a knuckle boom behind the cab, and a long wheelbase to have a long flat body for this application.There's a lot of different truck configurations for your business, that's the easy part in my opinion.

Another thing to consider, if you want to really jump in with both feet, is a good, used excavator, such as a 320c Cat, or the equivalent in a foreign brand, to rig them. Then, you have the capability to dig your own holes, too. But here we go...one thing leads to another.

To start off, if you haven't already, I'd look into renting a telehandler, a Lull forklift, of something comparable to get started. Unless there's an endless cash-cow to milk, I'd go easy at first.

Good luck.
 
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