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Swamp Loggers ?

Discussion in 'Forestry Operations' started by Autocar, Feb 6, 2010.

  1. Autocar

    Autocar Senior Member

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    Last nights episode Bobby was shut down by the mill saying he had delivered more then his quota,when in reality he hadn't even got half the loads in. My question is if they get paid by the ton or bd.ft. why wouldn't the mill have a exact count on truck loads or tons or bd. ft. and put two and two togather and see the truth. How in tar nation could you get paid whats coming to you or what the mill was losing by paying the wrong producer ?
     
  2. John C.

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    I pondered that for awhile also but the answer may lie in who he is working for. Several times on the show there has been a fellow out on the site with a white hard hat that wasn't part of the crew. They showed him as being with some kind of timber management company.

    Basically I think the management company gets the quota from the sawmill and then is supposed to relay that to the logger. Since the management company gets paid by the mill and the logger gets paid by the management company the logger is at the bottom of the barrel. The management company either doesn't tell the logger about the quota or simply just lies about it. The logger then gets the hit from the saw mill for delivering too much wood.

    As you watched the show the owner of the logging company was on the site most of the time, at least when the cameras were running. From what little experience I have with loggers, this seems to be a problem. The guy running the company is also out in the woods. When things like this come up he can't react to it and clear it up before it starts costing him money. I would have thought the owner should have run right to the saw mill to find out what was going on. Instead he called the management company and delivered a rigging fit and then appeared to let the whole matter go away. I wonder how many logging companies have gone away because of these situations.

    I really like the show for its day in the life type of story telling. It's probably not telling the whole story about the logger's life but it is a lot more interesting than the phony competition being played out on the other coast of the country.
     
  3. thejdman04

    thejdman04 Senior Member

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    I think that maybe the mill cut the quota or changed their minds and then no one told bobby and he sent too much. Or corbet logs had so much of a quota and someone else who is logging for corbet hauled more then their fair share and corbet said they would take some loads away from bobby to balance it out and then no one called bobby. I have a lot of respect for him and this show, trying to keep his guys employed, dipping into his savings to keep the company going. I like this show much more then the one that takes place on the other coast.
     
  4. Mack185

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    I'm not a logger but this is most definitely one of my favorite shows, it and American Loggers. Ax Men is an abomination if you ask me.
     
  5. OneWelder

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    I watched but did not pay a lot of attention - I thought they cleared it up by saying he delivered to much of a weekly quota in the first two days- They wanted loads delivered everyday and he tried to send loads in as quick as possible in case mill shut down before end of week
     
  6. Willis Bushogin

    Willis Bushogin Senior Member

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    This also is one of my favorite shows and having some logging experience, I would say the show is true to form, but it is a show and the producers show what they want. I am from the area that they work in, even though I dont know Bobby personally, I know of him and his reputation and from what I have been told, he is just like the show represents him and he does stay on the job a lot. As in anyone that owns a company, the hands on method works better than depending other people. I have two other friends that own logging outfits and either they are on the job always, or their son is there to watch the job
    Im trying to get in the Ax Man show, but its not like this show
     
  7. jhill

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    I agree with One welder. They were trying to get their weekly quota in as soon as possible and the mill wanted the weekly quota divided by 5 and delivered every day. Goodsons contention was he wasn't told he could only deliver so mant loads a day.

    Jerry
     
  8. HotRodNC

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    When the first show aired on Extreme Loggers it was suppose to be just that one time. They had so many request they came back. The first focus was on Bobby, Justin and the equipment. As they moved along with the show more of the drivers and crew got involved with the filming. This was also at the request of the fans. For what's real and what isn't. For the most part what you see is what you get. Sure they edit. They could probably do a bloopers of the show. As far as the attitudes of the boss. He is who he appears to be. A good Godly man who loves his family and cares a great deal for his crew. The inner workings of the mills get complicated and yes we moved as much as it showed we did. Maybe someone else can explain the mill, I don't want to misrepresent so that's all I will say about the mill. Glad your watchin and hope you'll keep on. We'll be back on with new shows in April! I'm Bo, American Flag hard hat and I love my job!
     
  9. diggerdave1958

    diggerdave1958 Well-Known Member

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    Swamp Loggers is a great show, and the guys on the show are all professionals and they care about there jobs, and just like most of us here they are being hurt my the down turn in the construction market. but its a great show and great people and equipment u fell like they are the kind of guys u could have a beer with after work.
     
  10. Heavyduty

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    It's cool that you took the time to post some info. Best logging show on T.V.:drinkup
     
  11. Autocar

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    Last nights show Bobby was at a few repair shops and junk yards. I am always looking at the back ground to see what kind of iron they have laying around. Nothing more fun to me to scarf around a equipment junk yard and drag something home to rebuild. I always told guys if on one side of the road was all the playboy bunnies standing behind plywood naked and the other side was a bunch of log trucks with knuckle boom loaders on them I would rather look at the trucks :D
     
  12. barklee

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    I think Bobby and his boy are good men. What i like about the show (being a small buisness owner also) is that i really feel for the guys and want them to succeed. There out there in the field busting there backs right beside the crew every day with everything on the line (so it appears). I try to do the same thing and it gets really hard and its nice to watch other people going through the same thing and making it happen!
     
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    Though I am an owner-operator of a small land clearing and chipping company, if I had to work for someone I could be loyal to a guy like Bobby Goodson. Seems to me that his crew is dedicated to the man and the company no doubt because he treats them with respect and tries to keep them working even if it costs him a little more. Kudos to the whole crew. My family can't wait for Friday night's Swamp Loggers!
     
  14. dawoodwa

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    I am just in awe that you guys keep your equipment running with the conditions that you operate in. The cutter and the skidders do an amazing job staying on the sunny side of the mud but what really amazes me are the conditions of your haul roads and you guys, and girl, keeping those trucks moving. Around here we would be replacing clutches, u-joints and differentials more often than we would be putting fuel in the trucks. Y'all do an amazing job working your trucks through that mud and muck and keeping them looking as good as you do. It is readily apparent that you take great pride in your job and in the equipment that you work with.
     
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    That is so cool that somebody who is actually there on the show is posting on here. When are they filming the next season of the show? Swamp Loggers is a cool show, it is just amazing how many problems that they seem to have. They can never catch a break, its either rain, mill shut downs or machine problems.
     
  16. gasfield315c

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    yeah some of their machines look like the skidded logs out of the swamps to build the ark with, but thats how people make fortunes, with old equipment thats been paid off for a long time
     
  17. stumper120

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    Welcome to HEF HOTRODNC !
     
  18. oldseabee

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    Show brings back memories, I was Southeast service rep for Clark Ranger Skidders from 78 to 92, then for Bell 3 wheelers 94 to 2004. Spent a fair amount of time in the swamps.
    Hard to believe the conditions unless you have been there.
     
  19. RedRebel

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    Could you by chance post any pictures of your blue Kenworth? Man that thing is sweet lookin!
    Great show...sad to see it go off until April though!
     
  20. excav8r

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    I've just found this show it airs on tuesday in canada and it is now in direct competition with deadliest catch for being my favourite show on t.v which is saying something. would love to do that kind of work for a living especially with a boss like bobby. hope you guys are able to get through the tough times.

    Would be really cool if we could get bobby to post on here.