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Shake Hands with Danger

Discussion in 'Safety Issues' started by Nige, Nov 16, 2019.

  1. 92U 3406

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    I was on our strata board a couple years ago. We have rules stating you cannot perform work on your vehicle in the parking lot. Nobody got upset about people changing a headlight or a flat tire out (we're all pretty reasonable). One guy decided to change out a unitized front wheel bearing on his car in the lot. Early spring so the snow and ice on the lot is melting and he had his car propped up on nothing more than that chincy little jack they give you for putting your spare tire on! Sat like that an entire day before I reported it. Young children live here. Last thing we want is someone getting hurt because the car slipped off the jack. Just stupid IMO.
     
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    Now who put that there!!!
     
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    Park the ute on the blind side of a haul truck and then wonder why it got run over. Nice one Batman.....
     
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    One item that no one should trust when jacking is air ride suspension, a block should be placed between bottom of frame and top of axle then jack it up. If the rig has air leaks and most do
    trusting the air bags will stay inflated is a mistake especially with air trailers. Dock Walk as it's known will cause the trailer to crab forward up to 3" inches as the bags deflate which if a jack
    is supporting the axle it will move or push the axle right off the jack. If it is a wheeled air jack it can kick the handle straight up as the axle slips off, and make for a really bad day. Some
    trailers now come equipped with swing down supports that lock the axle in a inflated position when trailer brakes are set. But the real mistake is not setting the trailer brakes first then
    jacking after trailer has settled if plumed that way.
     
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    No idea of the circumstances but heard that a pick-up (AKA Ute) got run over at one of the company's plants somewhere. It is a world wide company so could be anywhere in the world. Anyhow now all company pick-ups have to have yellow strobe light on the roof. Not sure if that counts when parked during the day!
     
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    Made the mistake of trusting a Hydraulic jack crawling under a differential, truck started easing down and I could not get out as Had NOT placed a stand to prevent that from lowering too far. Buddy in the shop heard and saw raised that leaking jack back up, was the LAST time I did not use stands when accessing under a machine.
     
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    I was taught in the mid 70's to NEVER park or drive up to the blind side of a large piece of equipment.
     
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    You head into a mine up here and they won't even let you in to the active mine area in a vehicle without a flashing amber strobe and lighted buggy whip set at minimum 12'6 (if the vehicle is under 12'6) Headlights and tail lights need to be on too.
     
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    This is our standard for an in-pit light vehicle. We use LED buggy whips which are the best I've ever seen. Far better than just a light on the top, flashing or not. https://www.hella.com/mining/en/LED-Buggy-Whip-1469.html

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    We're not allowed to park within 20 metres of a piece of equipment, blind side or not, unless it has been locked out first.
     
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    Years ago had to weld on the underside of a Link Belt LS118 track frame. Had the operator move it away from the river where I could get to it. It was at quitting time, and everyone left. Slid under on my back and air arced the cracks out. Pulled myself out with my heels, grabbed rod, turned the welder down and slid back under. Fat dumb and happy, welding away when it seemed to be a little tighter. Ahh, can't be, and burned more rod. Then, you know that feeling you get in your gut when something just isn't right, and you're not sure what? Hummm, I cant take a deep breath. That forkin pig was sinking into the dirt, and pinning me under it. Your heels don't get much bite, but man I was kickin and pullin and wigglin. I made it out, shirt around my chin, chest peeled and raw, one ear bleedin. Finished it the next day, at lunch, with someone around. On solid ground. Had to do it the next day, was shakin too hard to finish it then...
     
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    Talking about truck running over pick-ups/Utes just reminded me about something that happened at another one of the company's quarries near here many years ago.

    Believe it was during the night shift and they were finishing up some work on one of their haul trucks in the shop. Nothing big like Nige has just a little M65 Mack or maybe a 773 Cat. Well just before they fired up the truck in the shop night Superintendent pulls up and parks his Ford pick-up across the ramp outside the big overhead door and gets out and walks away.

    Well you can imagine what happened when the right rear duels caught that Ford right behind the cab, real low-rider Ford! Another one of those time I wish I had a camera handy like most do with cell phones these days!
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    And thinking about that one reminded me of one that hit a bit closer to home. Yea it was my dad! He was the working group leader at the quarry!

    Well he was doing his rounds and had to check with the driller who was working up on the next shot. He parked his pick-up well back from the face and walked over to talk to the driller. IR DrillMaster with 8V-71 so it was a bit noisy. When he was done turned and started to walk back to truck and wondered who had taken his truck!

    Layers of the limestone in the quarry are pretty flat but do have some wavy sections.

    At least one of the haul truck drivers had a good idea where the truck was as he watched it coming off the 40-50 foot face nose first. Guess he just about had a heart attack thinking there was someone in it! Guess when dad shut the truck off then put it in park he did not quite get it all the way in park!
     
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    I remember a funny one that happened in a shop I was working in. One of the boy's was burning the frozen shock studs off 8 bag air ride and the shock bushing started flaming up so
    he grabbed a jug of Extreme Blue window wash and dowsed it. You can imagine what happened for a split second, fortunately nothing bad happened, but he had the dumbest look on his face.
     
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    I know someone who serviced a skidsteer and neglected to wash the spilled fuel off

    He then had to cut a bracket off to fix the engine access door so he commences to torching

    Of course it flares the diesel up pretty good. Somebody goes to grab a fire extinguisher but he says “no no I’ve got it” turns the acetylene off and tries to blow it out with the oxygen jet

    Turns out that doesn’t help, who knew lol
     
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    This is my Dodge in the mine, with it's buggy whip light on top. It flashed blue and red and yellow in a sequence. Not real bright but bright enough. We supplied our own trucks at this site and leased them back to the company for onsite use. Seen here in a image of the evidence of a night shift truck operator that came out of the shop and turned on to the main mill access road (small vehicle traffic) and after realizing the error went through the berm to get back on the haulage circuit. this was in the area of an intersection where the berms were short to provide visibility for small vehicle drivers... this changed just about instantly. Dodge.jpg
     
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    So much for the recommended standard that the height of the berm is supposed to be at least 50% of the height of the largest size of tyre fitted to any piece of equipment that rolls down the road..............:eek::eek:
    That berm wouldn't stop a pickup, let alone a 793.

    This is the nearest I could find to what we have. Imagine that buggy whip being red and mounted on top of the roll bar behind the cab. (see post #50)

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    The single problem of all the lights buzzers bells and sirens is the Human
    I ride, MD and TS will fully first hand understand as so many will. All too many humans fail to See when they look, they glance for a car or a truck or something else and fail to see the multiple always on lights the shine of the chrome even the reflection off helmets or plexiglass either pull in front of or drive over motorcycles. Large machines become blind spot heaven and all the great grandiose or regulated safety devices will not stop one inadvertent action.
     
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    The biggest problem I've found with safety at the mines here is its overdone. There are so many cones, flashing lights, brightly coloured baricades, flagging tape etc that the mind just becomes numb to it.

    I went to a jobsite down south for a few days and was very suprised at how well things were organized. If there were baricades up or flashing lights, they indicated an actual hazard, not just a random pallet someone was to lazy too put away.
     
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    The Nuke power station was like that. Kind of like the Harry Potter movie where that janitor was hanging 'Do NOT' signs to excess. Had signs in Every hall, on Every door, signs on standards, ropes by varied colors to differentiate different levels or layers, tags, labels, more signage and signs on fences or in the parking lots. As noted become numb to the excessive strategies yet the Safety or protection departments do not see that.
     
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