1. Thank you for visiting HeavyEquipmentForums.com! Our objective is to provide industry professionals a place to gather to exchange questions, answers and ideas. We welcome you to register using the "Register" icon at the top of the page. We'd appreciate any help you can offer in spreading the word of our new site. The more members that join, the bigger resource for all to enjoy. Thank you!
  2. ALL NEW MEMBERS READ THIS FIRST!! Thank you for joining Heavy Equipment Forums! If you are new to forums we communicate with "Threads", please search our threads to see if your topic may have already been answered and if not then click "Post New Thread" in the appropriate forum. This will allow all of our members to see your question and give you the best chance to be answered. After you've made a number of posts you will graduate to Full Member status where you'll see a few more privileges. Following these guidelines will help make this the best resource for heavy equipment on the net. Thanks for joining us and I hope you enjoy your stay!!

Scrapers for the big boys !!!!

Discussion in 'Scrapers' started by slagpot, Sep 14, 2010.

  1. slagpot

    slagpot Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2006
    Messages:
    116
    Location:
    Beaufort,SC
    I found these videos posted on another forum and decided on sharing them here. The first one is a very good idea and I hope caterpillar & the patent office listen.

    The second one ,you might not want to have little ones in the room depending on your preference...choice language. Needless to say it is also a great idea for those mud hard to reach areas...you'll see what I mean.

    Caterpillar S18G

    YouTube - CAT S18G in action


    Caterpillar D57T scraper

    YouTube - The D57T Scraper
     
  2. Jeffksf

    Jeffksf Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2008
    Messages:
    62
    Occupation:
    Mouse operator
    Location:
    Cleveland, OH.
    So what's the point of the hybrid scraper/Grader?
     
  3. Dozerboy

    Dozerboy Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2006
    Messages:
    2,205
    Occupation:
    Operator
    Location:
    TX
    I see no point to a S18 ya only need so many machines with a blade on them. And I think Crawler Dozers, Wheel Dozers, and Blades have it covered pretty good.

    There is a thread on the D57T and I love it.
     
  4. Burnout

    Burnout Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2008
    Messages:
    1,442
    Occupation:
    Operator at Sureway Construction
    Location:
    Edmonton AB
    The guy holding the camera in that D57T video is kinda shakey. But even with the shake still the best camera'ing I have seen to date :drinkup

    The first time I saw the video for the S18 I kinda wondered....WTF? But now that I have seen her working I definately see the point. What happens on a day when it rains and you wanna sluff some mud over and get your scrapers running? Well a 16 sized grader is gonna be sitting there spinning... Or how about when you wanna move a little bigger windrow over for the 657's to pick up, a twin engine grader is kinda handy. How about the massive spread that beast has.. makes it nice and stable for finishing, and she's equipped with GPS makes her a nice finishing unit.

    The D57 has just as many benefits to its design that the S18 has.

    http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._476823381152_514111152_6744744_7770584_n.jpg

    http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._475312576152_514111152_6705446_2438051_n.jpg
     
  5. Aliate

    Aliate Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    Messages:
    318
    Location:
    Seattle, WA
    Oh my god its got a ****ing tractor


    edit-....that was supposed to be in caps. I love vantagetes' channel
     
  6. Kman9090

    Kman9090 Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2010
    Messages:
    273
    Location:
    Everywhere
    um or get a 24M
     
  7. Burnout

    Burnout Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2008
    Messages:
    1,442
    Occupation:
    Operator at Sureway Construction
    Location:
    Edmonton AB
    Ever tried movin a 24?
     
  8. alco

    alco Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2006
    Messages:
    1,260
    Location:
    here
    If you want to pay for one, go for it, but this thing will go more places, do more things, and cost a whole lot less.
     
  9. AmerIndependent

    AmerIndependent Site Sponsor

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2009
    Messages:
    359
    Occupation:
    Caterpillar Powertrain Rebuild & Repair Specialist
    Location:
    Riverside, CA
    We tried once. Not fun.
     
  10. 928G Boy

    928G Boy Senior Member

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2007
    Messages:
    274
    Location:
    Winnipeg, Canada
    I'm not really feelin the S18G. I don't think it can do much more than a regular dozer or grader in my opinion and i think that would be hell to operate. Grader is difficult enough for most people, now let's put the operator way in front of the blade/moldboard. F*** that!
     
  11. alco

    alco Senior Member

    Joined:
    Apr 7, 2006
    Messages:
    1,260
    Location:
    here
    Trust me, it's capable of way more than even a 16 size grader and is far faster than a dozer. I don't know why you think it would be so hard to operate, it's all run off GPS and all you have to do is drive it, and the GPS does the rest. One thing it really excels at, is stripping topsoil and windrowing it for scrapers to pick up.

    I've seen it work, this thing is an absolute beast.
     
  12. Jim Irwin

    Jim Irwin Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2008
    Messages:
    68
    Location:
    Australia
    windrowing! That would be excellent for that, but, how do you transport the S18? Its long!!

    Be too long for a lot of the floats down here!!
     
  13. Gavin84w

    Gavin84w Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2007
    Messages:
    554
    Location:
    Australia
    Your kidding arent you? nothing is too long, high,wide or heavy to float downunder.
     
  14. buckfever

    buckfever Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2010
    Messages:
    813
    Location:
    southwest pa
    load it on a pan trailer
     
  15. Vantage_TeS

    Vantage_TeS Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2008
    Messages:
    495
    Occupation:
    HE Operator. Surprise?
    Location:
    Calgary, Alberta
    24s are designed for mine type applications with long (dry) haul roads. They don't do well in low traction situations (sand, wet material, large amounts of rolling resistance) and have a tendency to spend more time getting hauled on those type of sites. Also while you CAN articulate the frame you can NOT unlock the table and therefor are somewhat limited on the type of work you can do with it. Again like I said designed specifically for one type of application and that is long hard dry roads.

    The S18 is also designed for a specific job and that is going where a normal grader cannot, but cover more ground then a dozer.

    Glad I can be of service, there's plenty more coming including something to address the downfalls of the 24.
     
  16. Kman9090

    Kman9090 Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2010
    Messages:
    273
    Location:
    Everywhere
    sorry im just not seeing where this thing would pay for itself, its got to cost just as much as a 37 to run, wind rowing top soil up for the scrapers to pick up??? Why cant they just cut the top soil off where it lays???
     
  17. Burnout

    Burnout Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2008
    Messages:
    1,442
    Occupation:
    Operator at Sureway Construction
    Location:
    Edmonton AB
    Thin layers of topsoil... windrow em up into a nice pile for the buggies to come get em, or windrow ahead of them when your busy? Ever been on a big earthmoving job? 100 000 cubes isn't what im talkin about. How about 3-4 million cubes?

    Sure the S18 may not be the next big thing in the industry, but it does what its made for very well.

    A tractor and pan, is not gonna cut in hard ground now is it? I could say that since it won't work hard ground its useless and should be wiped off the earth right? No of course not. The Holland loader is great for massive earthmoving in a big cut.... but will it cut road grade? Most likely not.

    My 973 is awesome at backfilling, but not so hot at laying down asphalt, should it be ripped apart?
     
  18. Kman9090

    Kman9090 Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2010
    Messages:
    273
    Location:
    Everywhere
    Why wont a trator and pan cut in hard ground??? And you keep saying that ive never worked on a big job??? Really, biggest i have been on was 9million yards, smallest around 10,000 yards. Right now im on a 1,5 million yard job. Think you better google TJ lambrecht
     
  19. Kman9090

    Kman9090 Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 3, 2010
    Messages:
    273
    Location:
    Everywhere
    [​IMG] 7 of are 10 deere's (wasnt able to get all of them in the pic)

    [​IMG]

    all of are 31's with my 6 up front, i have a better picture from up on top of the fill of all the 31's amd d10's dozers blades and rollers, but i need to get home and load it on the computer
     
  20. Vantage_TeS

    Vantage_TeS Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2008
    Messages:
    495
    Occupation:
    HE Operator. Surprise?
    Location:
    Calgary, Alberta
    Need some more equipment before you can call that a medium job ;)

    57s/51s/37s fleet of 31s showed up after as well as the 60 ton trucks and 4 more 40 tonners
    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3048/2970870764_b8bd46317a_b.jpg

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3025/2970823960_6147f53f87_o.jpg

    D10N pushcat, D10N, 850D, D10N, D5H, D6R, 385C LME, D11R pushcat, D11N pushcat, 345C L, 385C L
    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3049/2971118744_748759a4d6_b.jpg

    When you get close to the end of a block when stripping you run a grader over it quick to push any leftovers into a windrow, then run a twin down that row quick to pick it up, or push it over against the next block. Saves from having to drive all over the place with a scraper trying to get a load without mixing in common.

    The S18G wasn't designed with that job in mind although it can do it if needed. With fully automated GPS it's for blading off the wetter material found in certain Edmonton areas, which is exactly where it's working right now.
     
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2010