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S. Madill, Blacksmith, Founded in 1911 in Nanaimo BC

Discussion in 'Forestry Equipment' started by Contract Logger, Jan 24, 2010.

  1. TorkelH

    TorkelH Senior Member

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    Here's 12212 in it's former life at Mactush, north side of Alberni Inlet. Camouflaged as an 123 by the ignorant poster :)

     
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    That cable grapple looks pretty quick and simple in this video. The carraige operated grapple seen in a previous post looked pretty slick to,but complicated .Are the carraige grapples any advantage? We used to build our own yarding grapples for the 044 s the company ran,liked to brag they were logger proof .
     
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    TorkelH I was happy to see you put a new video up the other day! Your channel is one of my favorites, great grapple videos of some real iron in the bush.

    Has anyone looked at that 4800 yoder with the pullmaster drums for sale in Oregon? Think it has been for sale for almost a year now?

    Might make it a point to stop and see it on my way up to Washington, but its a longgg way out of the way. Have always wanted to see one in person.
     
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    A friend of mine moved that 4800 Yoder here four or five months ago. He said it was a hundred and forty-six thousand pounds on his trailer. I think it had sold.

     
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    Did he bring it up to WA or still in OR? If you know. Its the only one ive personally seen in the US for sale. Figured not many of them got off the Island to begin with. I heard Dalhgrens had one out in Forks but that might had been a long while ago.

    I'd believe it. 26k counterweight I think, something like 130k with no heal and just a grapple. Makes the new 'big' machines still look small.

    I was always happy running my little 2850C on the sort and jamming logs through the 3800C when I could. Definitely cant imagine another 100hp past the 3800 and 50ft of reach - total juicer to say the least.

    Would make a mean yoder for sure.
     
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    Back in the good old day's of Timberwest when we were all happy and hard at work . I use to spend a lot of time pushing the Off Highway Lowbed with a P16 Pacific . One time I'd pushed the lowbed with a Madill 075 Super Snorkel up a Branch Rd. as far as the lowbed could get , but it was still along ways to go to get to the 'Right of Way" to "Cherry Pick" . My old friend Ernie Harrison was the operator and Ernie was always coming up with great idea's and was willing to try just about anything . He got of his loader and suggested I try pulling him up the hill with the P16 . We hooked up a strap between the Machines and away we went . I took the corners as wide as I could , didn't take long and we were up the hill , loading . After that we made it standard practice .
    Fast forward a few years , Teal Jones has taken over , I'd been on a Highway Logging Truck for several years . On a cut back in operations I end up on an Off Highway P16 Pacific . I was sent out to load under a Madill 4800 that had been brought down from the QCI , but the loader was along ways from the loading site and the travel motors were getting pretty much worn out and it would take awhile to get to the loading site , so I wasn't to hurry out there . I got out to the loader just as the operator was ready to start out for the loading site . I offered to give him a pull to help him along . He looked at me like I was crazy and said I was full of Cr-p . But I convinced him to give it a try . We hooked up a strap and took off down the road , I bumped up the speed to about what I figured a Madill could easily do and backed off to let him get around sharp corners and switch backs . I just smiled when I let him around me at the loading sight .
    On the last load from that setting , I had just pulled up to the loading site turn around . The loader was parked with the Grapples laying in the mud . Just as I started to back up he picked up the Grapples and swung them across the road in front of the truck . A big lump of mud hanging from the Grapples broke loose and sprayed the front of the truck , a rock bounced off the "Hood" in into the Windshield . LOL the Good Old Days !
     
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    After running a carriage grapple on a harvestline for a year and a grapple yarder before that, i would have to say there is no real advantage to the motorized carriage unless you really like fixing broken carriages after bouncing them off the ground, they need a ton of lift can't drag it through the dirt to get a couple pieces from behind a hump etc.
     
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    Thanks Tacodriver That’s pretty much what I thought would happen. Have run Johnson grapples and motorised slack pulling carriages and figured that combining the two might lead to a few broken parts
     
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    Rice Logging in Eugene area has 2 or 3 of them, Jerry Debraie had one (burned) Tim Brown had one & sold it to Hampton Mills and Hampton had two others also.
    He moved it in Oregon.

     
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    I agree! The running skyline system with a motorized grapple Carriage is the dumbest freaking thing I have ever seen. You have to run a standing Skyline system and have big lift and big horsepower to run them.

     
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    We signed papers for a DC Falcon claw grapple Carriage. We're going to run it off of a Skagit 737.
     
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    I think Surco logging has/had one too. Spingfield area
     
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    Are you kidding? nobody would use a motorizéd carriage with grapple on a running skyline?
     
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    Thank you for liking my videos, even if they're starting to get quite old.:) Figured out it was time to settle, got married and got kids, and thus I haven't been travelling to the US for 7 years. The new video shows my friends mini running skyline yarder using synthetic rope for haulback and mains. This is not a Madill, but it was painted in Madill orange when my friend got it.
     
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    Believe it or not there's some f'n morons that do.
     
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    Alpine grapple with 171
     
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    That sounds like life to me, hard to raise kids or be around the house when you're stuck at camp. In-town work and home in bed every night has its place.

    The videos are working on their patina ;) just like the machines working in them, they are timeless. Still out there pulling logs everyday without the frills of a computer assist, satellite guided seat belt tensioner that reads your stomach sweat to determine optimal coffee temperature in the break room of the shop.

    Somethings are better left the way they are in this world.

    How does that synthetic line hold up compared to traditional cable?
     
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    That is horribly slow. Put the f'n skyline out and slack it down thru the frictions. Get some lift & send turns!!
     
  19. Tacodriver

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    Going to be feeding it with a machine on the hill i take it? That was one of my many issues with the harvestline I couldn't swing the machine to get the grapple to flip over a couple of feet to get the grapple on the wood.
     
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    Yes, we will probably only run the grapple about 30% of the time when we have decks or I am able to feed the skyline. It's just another tool in the toolbox but definitely not the be-all end-all logging system.