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Restoring the sole surviving White & Beck full size bus.

Discussion in 'Trucks' started by Boston, May 4, 2016.

  1. Boston

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    Hi folks.

    So I just picked up what looks like the only surviving white and Beck bus. One of ten ever built.

    Started on sheet metal today.

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    She sure looks good from this angle.

    What year was she built? 195? 194?

    Did they have any connection to White Motor Company?

    What engine?
     
  3. Boston

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    Its a 1952 and yes, it was a cooperative effort by White Motor Company and Beck Bus Corporation. They only built ten. It looks like its a Beck rolling chassis with a white designed body. Although the wind shield and headlights are from the Beck line.

    This one had a swap out done, the original gas engine was replaced with a 4-53 Detroit screamer and a 610 tranny.

    The shaft seal on the back of the tranny is leaking like mad so I need to get after that, and the pillow blocks on the squirrel cage need replaced. Radiator and a tensioner on the compressor. Little things. Better shackles between the axel housing and leafs.

    For right now we're focussing on the body work and paint. Inspiration factor

    The bus is the only surviving big brother of Yellowstone's antique tour busses.
     
  4. old-iron-habit

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    Nice looking rig. Thanks for sharing. Glad it is getting restored and not on the way to China. I had a 1941 Greyhound that was converted to a party camper that I bought shortly after I finished high school. It had the transverse mounted 6-71 Detroit running at reverse rotation with a 35 ft shift linkage to the 4 speed transmission. We had a blast going to concerts, the lake, ball games, or whatever came up, until I traded it for my first backhoe tractor. Not sure if trading it was the right move but if alcohol is a preservative it might still be around somewhere.

    This one started life with a gas engine also until Greyhound converted it.
     
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  5. Boston

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    LOL sounds like you were having a great time with that old bus.

    I'm all about the historic nature of this unit as its not just the only surviving example of its type but also the only surviving big brother of the National parks antique White Motor company tour busses.

    I was thinking of making a coffee shop/gourmet hot dog stand out of it and parking it outside one of Yellowstone's entrances

    The exterior will be historically accurate but the inside doesn't have a chance. 36 seats just isn't in the cards ;--)

    I'm hoping you folks can help me out with the occasional question.

    I need to replace the rear seal in the tranny and I might bump into trouble. Oh and I don't have a clue where to buy parts ???

    Where do you guys get parts for a 610 tranny ? I need a rear seal
     
  6. old-iron-habit

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    If you can salvage enough of the old seal to measure you can go to any reputable bearing supply and they will measure it and match it up. Same goes for bearings. Probably the two easiest parts to get on any old rig.
     
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    A few of the tranny differential issues as well as one of Steve our sheet metal guy grinding away on the first patch.

    We're removing everything from the roof thats not original filling all the wholes. There'a a lot of talk about re skinning the top but not this year. For now I just want it to hold water and not be so drafty for this years trip to yellowstone.

    This fall I'm planing on dropping the floor, eliminating all the undercarriage doors and really getting after the interior. But for now we're just trying to get it to water proof. ;--)

    Lots of progress today. And for a bonus, no one hit it with a forklift. ;--) although it was close.
     
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    very nice
     
  9. Boston

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    So hey, where do you guys go to get parts for the RT-610 ?

    I need a speedo cable and a cap. Looks like mine fell appart on the last leg getting it home.

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    I get mine from TruckPro, or Fleetpride, which are chain truck parts stores, (no guess if they're in Co); or from one of several truck dealers. Roadranger parts are common, it's all in who has it that day, or is about to make a stock order next.