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Reading a 637 scraper

Discussion in 'Scrapers' started by baexcavating, Jan 7, 2018.

  1. baexcavating

    baexcavating Active Member

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    Looking at buying a pair of 637 scraper's... Wondering what kind of trouble I would get in by driving them home about 600 miles vs hauling them and buying all the permits. I know it's probably a bad idea, but who has done it and how bad can it really be?
     
  2. Jakebreak

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    I have never done it let alone run a scraper that big but if it was me I wouldn't drive it I would spend the money for permits and haul them it make it easier and safer you would be putting a lot of wear on the tires by driving them not to mention extra wear on the drive train and that's a good size machine going down the road the brakes might not be that good what would you do if you had a tire go out on you going down the road at speeds to me it wouldn't be worth driving them I would haul if it was me if it was only less then 5 miles on a country backroad I would drive it not 600 miles not to mention they would drink a lot of fuel that's my .02 worth
     
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    you still have to have permits here unless you are a farmer
     
  4. Delmer

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    Old iron habit drove one home, but it was closer to 5 miles than 600 if I remember right. I've driven some crazy things and 100 miles in state I'd consider it. Not 600 with two.
     
  5. Welder Dave

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    I think you'd end up in the psych ward for a long time while they tried to figure out what was going on inside your head. 5 miles sure but 600 I think you'd face huge fines and they'd likely impound the scrapers.
     
  6. Junkyard

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    Biggest issue would be tires. A close second would be brakes. After that is wear and tear on drivetrain. Time is $, how many days would it take, how much fuel would you burn etc. Anything over about 75 miles isn't worth it.
     
  7. InsleyGuy

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    I used to work with a guy who drove a 637 from the Michigan U.P., across the Mackinac bridge and all the way down I-75 to the Detroit area. I don't think you could do that today.
     
  8. DPete

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    The axle weight must be 50K per axle or more, If you get caught and weighed with portable scales that's how they would look at it, the fine would be determined from overweight amount. That's what would happen here in Ca. anyway. I never roaded my 623's unless it was within a couple miles and they were 80K lbs, not worth the risk
     
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  9. Jakebreak

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    Your right about that dpete around here sometimes it's a pain for the farmers moving their stuff around about a year my dad had a torque hub break and come completely off the carrot harvester they were roading on a backroad and it sent the duals out into a field those things are 12-14' wide that was a little scary I couldn't imagine losing a tire on a scraper
     
  10. Wytruckwrench

    Wytruckwrench Well-Known Member

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    They used to do it all of the time. When I was a kid you would see a convoy of them fairly often.
     
  11. stars&bars44

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    I've heard of guys running them a few miles local over the road, and once or twice a guy might run one 15 or 20 miles, but that was in the 80's and 90's. It's pretty hard on the planetary gears and transmissions. They were made for power not high speed. If its cold the tires will bounce you all over the road from where they were parked. If you must drive it, pinch a couple truck tires between the apron and cutting edge to drag if you need to stop suddenly. I have pulled up a chunk of asphalt or two in my day with just a bare cutting edge. And you do know they wont let you on the highway. You wont get far if you try that.
     
  12. Birken Vogt

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    I don't know much about scrapers, but my financial back-of-the-envelope says it might be more expensive just in rubber worn off the tires but here is what I would consider and try to put a dollar figure on:

    -Tire wear
    -Risk of blowout from driving so fast so long
    -Man hours spent driving
    -Permits and hassle
    -Angry smokey
    etc....
     
  13. old-iron-habit

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    I drove my DW-21 home 80 miles. Nice Sunday drive. It had been roaded everywhere it went for the last 10 years it worked. Often around a hundred miles. In about 1977 we roaded everything from DW-20s to 657s and 660s from southern MN to Buelah, ND. It was a distance of 504 miles. As stated you still may need permits unless it for ag. Mine had to build a logging road for myself so it was considered ag. I will get that road built some day. I may drive a DW-10 dump wagon home in the spring just for the adventure, 200 miles or so. After setting for years they sure run good after a good road trip blows the carbon out of them. That being said I do not know if the transmissions on the 737 would heat up or not on the road. Seems I read somewhere once that you had to stop or slowdown for them to cool once in a while.

    EDIT: I drove mine from Wisconsin to Minnesota. Took backroads but still had to drive thru towns. No hassles at all. Around here the bigger front end loaders are running around all the time with oversized buckets and what not. I have never heard of anyone being hassled.
     
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    I once drove a 631b from 184 mile on the MT Newman line back to 7 mile camp at Wickham near Roebourne
    in Western Australia working for Morrison/knudsen back in the seventies. Also my farther in law who worked for Bob Kieth in the early sixties drove all the old Le Tourneau scrapers / graders /trucks, plus mobile camp from M Melbourne Victoria to Kununurra in Western Australia 3600 miles
     
  15. jaclo

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    If your brakes and flashers and turn signals work and you’re ok with the mileage on them, ask your state road department and see what they say. In Nebraska we can get a trip permit for $100 and it’s no big deal. They route us around a bridge they don’t like but we’ve never had a problem. Took one 150 miles west a couple years ago.

    My biggest warning to you is about the idiots on the highway. They will pass you like you’re in a half ton pickup and be on their phones, the whole 9 yards. You’re just another tractor on the road to them.

    I highly recommend you yourself and your most trusted hand help you along with a good set of tools and a beacon escort. Just try to make it look like you really went out of your way to be over prepared if you have a problem and are stuck on the road. Hydraulic oil if you blow a steer hose.
     
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    Maybe a set of fuel filters too.
     
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    Running scrapers long distances in Africa used to be SOP, not sure now. Longest I ever saw was a fleet of 631Ds that were roaded 1200km (750 miles) from the port to a mine site, and that was back in the days of bias-ply tyres. No major issues other than it took a while. As others have said it might bear some investigation regarding costs of permits/fuel/labour/parts/lubes, etc, etc, vs hauling. Only you can answer that question. A twin engine scraper should road fine on just the front engine IMO.
     
  18. Jakebreak

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    What did you end up doing on getting those scrapers moved to your shop
     
  19. Bls repair

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    Now days I don’t think it would work with traffic. You take life in your hands when you drive a car . What’s going to happen when you throw a 637 into it
     
  20. old-iron-habit

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    People tend to move when they see a scraper coming.