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Possible Project in Canada

Discussion in 'General Industry Questions' started by John C., Jan 12, 2019.

  1. StanRUS

    StanRUS Senior Member

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    Exactly why John's using the Canadian Consulate services to answer his' question(s) via email is advisable. 30-45 minutes of time invested to prevent 30minutes to hours stuck @ the border crossing.

    Email reply printed out for presentation to the border guards.
     
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  2. Truck Shop

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    I ran into Vancouver B.C. with a drop at Oppenheimer or Tom Yee four to five nights a week, I had B.C. plates & permits. All loads were brokered, 45 minute wait to clear customs.
    Never had one issue with RCMP's, rule don't act like american jack ass and things go smooth. In your case your only inspecting, move it across border it will be brokered and inspected
    by U.S. customs, and U.S. customs is way worse in most cases, you being a U.S. citizen makes you even more of a suspect.
     
  3. wornout wrench

    wornout wrench Senior Member

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    Unfortunately, since 911, border security on both sides has tightened up.

    What used to be an easy passage between 2 friendly nations has turned into a major hassle.

    Personally I don't have an issue with the stepped up security.

    I think that the border guards have their personalities and senses of humor removed. It must help with the tediousness of the job.
    God only knows what I would be like.
    People tell me that I am a pretty nice guy.
    I bet that after 2 days of doing that job I would be the biggest A hole around.

    John is doing the right thing.
    simple little piece of paper will solve a whole mitt full of problems down the road.
    If the Government of Canada says that you need this document filled out to do what you need to do, fill it out, end of story, end of problem.

    If I was going to the States to do the same thing John is doing, I would do the exact same thing. Contact border services, immigration, who ever I had to, to make sure that I was all legal.
     
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  4. 245dlc

    245dlc Senior Member

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    I've crossed back and forth over the years and always have all my documentation if I buy something south of the border, some guards are more strict than others and doesn't seem to matter what country they are representing others have been friendly and chatty. Its unfortunate border security is as strict as it is, as I think most people have good intentions.
     
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  5. Welder Dave

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    It's a big power trip for a lot of the border security and cops in general. There was a big stink about a year ago that women wearing niqab's covering their face don't have to remove them going through airport security. One woman was even suing the gov't. because she didn't think she should have to remove it to become a Canadian citizen. Dispute some bad border security, Canada is generally pretty nice people.
     
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  6. DMiller

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    May ONE DAY try it again and STILL on a Harley.
     
  7. John C.

    John C. Senior Member

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    I've been hassled far more by US Customs than the people on the Canada side. It used to be quick, got any guns, fresh fruit, how long you staying, where are you going; have a nice trip. I missed a call today from an attorney wanting to discuss this. I'll stay in phone range tomorrow.
     
  8. wornout wrench

    wornout wrench Senior Member

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    Buddy of mine was a US citizen working in Canada on a sponsored work visa.

    He never had a problem coming into canada, only going home.
    I guess he was a bit wild in his youth and had some kind of a mark against his name.
    He spent the night in a jail one time going home. ???

    Not sure what it was that had the authorities all pizzy about him, could not be anything too bad or Canada would not have let him in.

    DMiller, just ignore the idiots at the border and come on up.
    We are a pretty friendly bunch up here.:D
     
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  9. Camshawn

    Camshawn Well-Known Member

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    If a Canadian is coming going to the US, no work can be preformed in the US unless all the work permits are in place. Don’t bring a “work tool” with you! You will be turned back, even if you are going to the ice cream parlour a 1/2 mile south. I was asked last week my occupation when we crossed ( electrician) and did I have any tools. Mechanical pliers and screw drivers were ok but not electrical ones. The electrical tools became mechanical tools and it was ok. We could have been sent back.
    We cross a lot some years and not at all other years. Most US border people we have dealt with have been curtious and nice. A few have not been. Like most interactions, be honest and accept what you get. Cam
     
  10. John C.

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    Just got off the phone with a attorney in Montreal about this issue. I don't know why my request was forwarded to a private attorney but the information is good.

    Basically the project is less than five days at a time, no intervening interests having to do with Canada, both me and the possible buyer American citizens and the project being paid for outside of Canada means that no permits are needed. The attorney did state that many times their customs people might have something personal that strikes them and they will run people through the wringer taking up time and costing money only to have to allow someone through anyway. So for a fee he would provide a piece of paper that would circumvent the egos that sometimes show up at the border. That's up to my client whether to pay the fee or not and whether or not to risk delays and costs associated with them. More than likely he will restrict his search for equipment to the States instead.

    I've done my due diligence at this point.

    Thanks for all the input! You guys are great!
     
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  11. Bumpsteer

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    Met with a customer today, he's from Canada.
    Told me since the govt shutdown, entering the US is a pita, the border agents aren't getting paid regularly and take their sweet arse time moving cars thru customs....

    Ed
     
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  12. Vetech63

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    You mean they are even slower when not paid?o_O
     
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  13. Tugger2

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    Years ago while in marine construction we aquired a mass of used floats and piles from the harbour in Blaine Wash . The whole project was a Sh###t show from the beginning to the end, floats breaking up in bad weather, dead head pilings escaping out tows.Customs visited our tug once as we were in eye sight of their office, they took one look at the scene, we did have paperwork in order and walked away ,have a good day boys dont be working without permits.Im sure they saw a greater benifit to the US to let this 5 acre collection of marine flotsam be exported to Canada without further complications.
    All that aside glad you have things sorted out John C . You never know when we might need an appraiser up here to evaluate American cranes properly , watching Ritchies gets pretty dismal when you own these things.
     
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    I do Heavy Equipment inspections. I live in Alberta. I have completed inspections and escrow projects for clients all over the world. I have been in the business for 18 years. Feel free to send me a pm if you want some assistance.