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P&H 4100A Pictures

Discussion in 'Excavators' started by Eric, Apr 29, 2009.

  1. EGS

    EGS Senior Member

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    That is pretty cool Eric.

    You don't see those big machines in this neck of the woods everyday.
     
  2. Eric

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    The funny thing is, that those shovels are made in Milwaukee!:usa
     
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    Yeah that is true. They are made in West Milwaukee only about 50 miles from my house.

    Bucyrus are made in South Milwaukee and Milwaukee. Two years ago I helped put in water and sewer lines at the Bucyrus's South Milwaukee plant. It is a very cool place.
     
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  4. Mass-X

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    Is that a DM-M3?
     
  5. Eric

    Eric Senior Member

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    I don't follow. The drill? The drill's an Atlas Copco Pit Viper.
     
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    I want one! :woohoo
     
  7. Mass-X

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    Atlas Copco’s DM-M3 blasthole drill is in the same class as the larger Pit Viper’s, just smaller than the PV-351. If the pictured drill had have been a DM-M3, the dual rear jacks raised a question for me. But since it’s not, disregard.
     
  8. Tracksoup71

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    Atlas Copco bought out Ingersol Rand a couple of years ago I guess. When they were IR drills, they were all labeled with a DM series number. We had a bigger IR drill, DM something or another...(lol...sorry, not a driller) then a couple of years ago after the conversion, we bought the same exact drill but AC. The only difference was the color and the name on the side.
     
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    Hey Eric, How are those electric shovels for operating? The biggest shovel we have at our mine is a Hitachi 5500 with a 40 yard scoop. We have a couple of Hitachi 3600's that are all hydraulic, which I get along with just fine, but this 5500 is electric over hydraulic. There's no embilical cord, but the controls are very touchy. There's a split second deley from the time you react or stop to the time the machine follows your command. That, and the sticks look like they robbed from old Atari video game paddles and have no feelable backpressure to your hand movement. When used to hydraulic linkage, this machine tends to throw your coordination all out of wack..lol. It keeps you on your toes for sure.
     
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    It's amazing how sensitive the controls are on the shovel, and FAST. I much prefer the electric rope shovels to the hydraulic 5230 we have. I haven't run an electric over hydraulic so I couldn't say on that. I do know that P&H shovels run different from BE shovels. I can't remember which is which but one runs AC motors and one runs DC. That's what I've been told. I have only run P&H so I can't compare, but we have some older shovelrunners that say the BE shovels have a "lag" similar to what you are talking about.
     
  11. alco

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    The BI shovels are AC drive now, and most P&H are still DC, although, you can get AC P&H machines now. We're getting a new AC 4100 later this year. The BI machines do have a lag to them in the controls, and they are rough as hell on the operator.
     
  12. Mass-X

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    Are the machines you're referencing equipped with Hydracrowd?
     
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    No, the machines we have are all rope crowd. Pretty durable though, they broke the center pin on one of them this afternoon. Pure junk! 4 years old and this is the second center pin they have snapped.
     
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    Alco, how many 495's do you run there? You'd think it would cost less to be rid of them than dealing with all the downtime.
     
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    We have 4 495HFs. As much as we figure it would be better to do what you mention, the management doesn't seem to see it the same way. Oh well....lol.
     
  16. T.McG

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    Yeah, that looks like FUN!
     
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    i am a engineer
    mainly repair the heavy machine
    want look for some book about shovel

    thanks your pic
     
  18. AmerIndependent

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    I made it out to your mine last week Eric- that's a very impressive operation!

    Here's some pictures I took from the outside of the mine if anybody cares to see them.

    I'm pretty sure the last one is a 793 dumping.
     

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    Have you had many problems with the saddle blocks on your shovel Eric?
     
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    Thas is a cool machine, any idea of what size of hoist ropes it uses?