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O God no brakes! helllpp
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Nige
Senior Member
Sort of ....... "I've got my opinion, don't confuse me with the facts" deal. 
Grady what the heeeeeeeeeelllllll are you talking about?? I ASKED HERE for a service manual and GOT ONE. will you please STFU about it. jeeezlus chrriiist.
Coy youre awesome. thank you for helping.
I tried many a sessions of penetrating oil, tapping, tapping harder. Heating, tapping, heating, swearing.
Thought i broke her loose but ended up busting the spline disc. new one on order as we speak.
sucks bc the right side came off so easily.
Actually Grady chimed in just to tell me to get the service manual (which i did via Tinkerer) and to tell me i didnt know what i was doing (wow really great input there, thanks a ton)
Nobody even gorram BOTHERED to link me to this thread: https://www.heavyequipmentforums.com/threads/case-580-ck-stuck-wheel-or-brakes.50675/
which Grady was a PART OF... wouldve been a lot easier than arguing with me and ignoring the fact that i was agreeing with him most of the time
Is defending myself to Grady unacceptable?
Believe me i didn't want this haha. But I hate being called an idiot by people that dont know me. once you know me THEN you can call me an idiot.
For anyone still interested in the actual progress of this repair. Maybe Coy and Tinkerer since theyve been quite helpful.
I drained the oil and pulled both of the bearing carriers off. this time it was the Right side which was a bear. shims didnt really survive, will have to replace them.
Once its time, any reason not to reinstall with just one shim equaling the total thickness of the three that were on there? would rather cut a single one out of the appropriate shim stock than 3.
And the surfaces between the shims are anything but smooth. should i ignore the 'added' thickness? i feel like its going to add more than a few thou with the new shims.
I drained the oil and pulled both of the bearing carriers off. this time it was the Right side which was a bear. shims didnt really survive, will have to replace them.
Once its time, any reason not to reinstall with just one shim equaling the total thickness of the three that were on there? would rather cut a single one out of the appropriate shim stock than 3.
And the surfaces between the shims are anything but smooth. should i ignore the 'added' thickness? i feel like its going to add more than a few thou with the new shims.
BOB GO AWAY!! YOU'RE STILL BEING AN A55H0LE!
Legdoc
Senior Member
Wow, sign of the times, few can agree on anything.
Tinkerer
Senior Member
3 shims or one doesn't matter, as long as the thickness is the same. Not sure what you mean the surfaces are not smooth between the shims. Rust ? Galled ? The important thing is the bearing pre-load when it is back together.
Yes, you asked here for info on why your brakes don't work and then for a service manual for your machine without even doing a google search where they are offered for free - like it's up to someone else to do it for you? The link tinkerer gave you is for a C, that has similar although different brakes. I see you finally took my advice to research the threads on this site that have a lot of good info on brakes for CK's. There are quite a few threads that contain a lot of good hints that aren't in the manual - but you again wanted someone to just send you the link because google is just too labor intensive? "no one BOTHERED" Do you think I remember the name of every thread I ever posted in or read? I told you they were here - you just had to look - and apparently you finally did. Did you read my post in that thread that advised to get the service manual and others agreed? I gave that guy a bearing carrier for his brakes who offered to buy it - but he wasn't being a dick.
No one ever called you an idiot even if that's how you took it. Rudimentary means basic, not stupid. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. I was trying to keep you from doing expensive damage to your machine unintentionally. I told you we all help each other and it isn't a contest but you make it painful. Coy and Tinkerer, besides knowing more than me, must also have more time on their hands, better social skills, ungrateful kids of their own, or maybe they're just religious and can turn the other cheek. I heard the Lord helps those who help themselves so ask a question that shows you've made some effort and don't be rude to those who are trying to help you. I like Nige's motto.
I can't imagine that anyone cares about the progress of your repair at this point - but it's always amusing to watch a tantrum.
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Yea pretty much just concerened about the roughness and rust.
Grady... This isnt yahoo answers and im not asking about how to change a lightbulb
i came to a forum asking for super esoteric help and to save time. Telling me to help myself... is not helping. I know how to google, and thread skim, and i didnt find anything.
Proving your point by intentionally witholding information seems a bit childish, and once again, does not help, and also wastes both our time.
The time i spent looking and not finding anything on my own doesn't make me any smarter, it just wastes my time.
With both thread skimming and googling, it's the destination that teaches, not the journey.
You set a precedent by talking down to me, and continued to convince other people. Meanwhile I was doing everything you and Bob were convinced I wasnt...
Coy and Tinkerer probably spent less time overall, and helped me more, because they wanted to help, not 'teach me a lesson'.
Calling me defending myself a tantrum is cute. But that's your shtick i guess. Everything I do is wrong, and you're always right.
It seems the old crotchety experts are as egocentric as the 'millenials'.
And as i said to Bob after his last comment, in not so many words; please just go away and stop adding to this now piece of garbage thread.
i came to a forum asking for super esoteric help and to save time. Telling me to help myself... is not helping. I know how to google, and thread skim, and i didnt find anything.
Proving your point by intentionally witholding information seems a bit childish, and once again, does not help, and also wastes both our time.
The time i spent looking and not finding anything on my own doesn't make me any smarter, it just wastes my time.
With both thread skimming and googling, it's the destination that teaches, not the journey.
You set a precedent by talking down to me, and continued to convince other people. Meanwhile I was doing everything you and Bob were convinced I wasnt...
Coy and Tinkerer probably spent less time overall, and helped me more, because they wanted to help, not 'teach me a lesson'.
Calling me defending myself a tantrum is cute. But that's your shtick i guess. Everything I do is wrong, and you're always right.
It seems the old crotchety experts are as egocentric as the 'millenials'.
And as i said to Bob after his last comment, in not so many words; please just go away and stop adding to this now piece of garbage thread.
as fu just said IT IS A GARBAGE THREAD thanks to him and his hot head he is much too lost in my eyes and deserves no more help he spends more time dissing people than hunting for real answers so maybe you should just be gone
No one "intentionally" withheld any information from you and you never even bothered to look - you already admitted it. Why should you "waste your time" when you could waste someone else's, right? I googled it and it popped right up first time - free.
Why do you persist in making up bull**** excuses for things that are painfully obvious? You probably haven't noticed because you never bothered to read any other threads but people here are generally polite and helpful to each other. I have an idea. Since an apology is out of the question because you think you are the victim here, why not try your next post under a different user name that is less indicative of your personality and use this thread as a learning experience. See if you don't get a better result. Pretend someone taught you manners. I learned a long time ago that nothin is for nothin - even if it's free - so if you come here for an answer to something you don't know, why not come here and share some of your expertise to those who don't know what you do? - if it isn't too much of a waste of your time.
Why do you persist in making up bull**** excuses for things that are painfully obvious? You probably haven't noticed because you never bothered to read any other threads but people here are generally polite and helpful to each other. I have an idea. Since an apology is out of the question because you think you are the victim here, why not try your next post under a different user name that is less indicative of your personality and use this thread as a learning experience. See if you don't get a better result. Pretend someone taught you manners. I learned a long time ago that nothin is for nothin - even if it's free - so if you come here for an answer to something you don't know, why not come here and share some of your expertise to those who don't know what you do? - if it isn't too much of a waste of your time.
willie59
Administrator
I just came across this thread, and have read the bulk of it and frankly I'm astonished at the behavior in this thread. I'm not going to name any names, but rather I'm going to put it out to everybody within ear shot of me who reads this, we WILL treat each and every member on HEF with respect. And if anyone doesn't agree with that then I'll simply go to my toolbox and get out my ban hammer and use it without warning or recourse. Capisce?
Tinkerer
Senior Member
Even tho the wheels fell off this thread, I wonder if fu580ck ever got his brakes working. I hope so.