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New JD672G Grader

Discussion in 'Motor Graders' started by ovrszd, Aug 17, 2019.

  1. ovrszd

    ovrszd Senior Member

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    Still got the wing. It'll bolt on this machine.

    I've never used a one way. How do you hold your front end where you want it?

    Our snow is usually moisture laden and heavy. There's no way I could have held the front end with a one way last week. I struggled just using the moldboard.

    This year we have had 10 snows totaling 20". First snow was 28 October which is very early for us. We've got 8" on the ground now. No drifts. Supposed to be at or above freezing every day for the next two weeks. This snow will go away slow, but it'll go away.

    We are in the fields planting crops beginning the last week in March. I put on my yearly gravel allotment first of April.
     
  2. cuttin edge

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    Never had an issue keeping the front where I want it. My wing pushes out from behind the rear tire so it wants to shove your arse end out. Lean my wheels right and it seems to counter perfectly. Going around a corner at an intersection, I take up the slack in my lift chains up front, puts a bit of weight on my front wheels. If the banks are hard enough, my wing swings me around a corner
     
  3. ovrszd

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    Yes, I can understand how that would work!!! So the one way front blade is floating on chains? Does it have shoes to keep it from digging in the roadbed?

    I'm expecting to utilize your technique some with my front V plow. It's usually running on it's shoes with hydraulics in float. With the front tires pulling I think I will be able to lift it slightly to gain traction and direction control?
     
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    Hey ovrszd, your pics and descriptions are much appreciated. Very nice pics and thorough in details.

    I was out hauling snow again last night and had coffee with one of the foremen from our city works department, and one from the big construction company in my area. We got talking graders and all the problems with the brand new Cat 140 and 160 M all wheel drives. They said they bend the moldboard tilt cylinders weekly, the turntables bend and/or fall off, etc. And this is on snow duty!! And if you get stuck they don't have the hydraulic power to lift the machine with the blade.
    Said they have met with Cat reps and the Cat reps claimed "operator abuse." To which our city replied "well all the same operators switch between them, our old Champions and Volvo's and our new and old Deere's and none of them are breaking?"

    Everyone I have talked to lately really prefers the new Deere graders over Cat. The reps from Deere even went as far as to tell our city officials "you will never break one of our motor graders." And so far that has been true.

    I wish there were some new Komatsu graders around here. I'd like to see how they compare. I spent the last two summers loading myself with a brand new Komatsu WA 500 loader and I can say it puts Cat loaders to shame. And it had not one emission system issue.
     
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    Sorry, I missed your reply. It is like a plow on a pickup truck. Rides on shoes and the cutting edge. If I want some weight on the front tires, I just lift it a bit. It's not scraping, but it still takes the bulk of the snow. I run 4 heavy lift chains for this reason. Sometimes in heavy storms the weight of the blade, plus the snow it was pushing when I lifted it, would break lighter chains. Your v has down pressure I take it, no lift chains. I heard guys talking about driving old Austin Weston six wheel drive graders lifting the V slightly to get more traction. Snow tires are really the cats meow. We run them on all 11 loaders and 2 back hoes now. At first, they gave us a real edge over the other contractors, but everyone runs them now. Our engineer looks after the plowing and says the savings In fuel and the extra work we can do, has paid for them a couple of times now. They are taken off in the spring so they last forever. Some sets are ten years old and have seen different loaders.
     
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    A neighboring Township with deep pockets run a set of snow tires in Winter. They rarely chain up their grader. We don't have the financial resources to do that yet.

    Our V plow is attached to the scarifier beam on the front of the grader. It is a hydraulic toolbar with float. The V plow has three shoes. I'm almost always in float when plowing. Only time I lift is to gain a little directional traction if I'm drifting sideways. Now with AWD I don't expect to have that problem as often.
     
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    Follow up.

    I received a Customer Experience questionnaire from John Deere. I checked the appropriate blocks on the document and added a multi page document outlining the problems we've had with this machine.

    I actually don't expect anything exceptional from Deere. I believe they will pass it down to the dealer and they will be required to respond. We are down to two (2) problems. In seven months they've been unable to fix them, but maybe they'll be more motivated now. Who knows.

    What I do expect is a consideration by Deere that their Quality Control measures at the Assembly Plant need review. Every problem we've had could have been eliminated there.

    Check out my attachment for the document I sent to them. I included five pictures with annotations on each in regards to the oil leaks I've had.
     

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    At least now if this social distancing thing gets real boring, we have your phone number for crank calls
     
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    Exactly!!!! That's what friends are for!!!