1. Thank you for visiting HeavyEquipmentForums.com! Our objective is to provide industry professionals a place to gather to exchange questions, answers and ideas. We welcome you to register using the "Register" icon at the top of the page. We'd appreciate any help you can offer in spreading the word of our new site. The more members that join, the bigger resource for all to enjoy. Thank you!

Need help with a Smith 100cfm Ford302V8 Tow Behind Compressor ?

Discussion in 'Other Construction/Demolition Equipment' started by Geardoc, Nov 21, 2019.

  1. Geardoc

    Geardoc Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2013
    Messages:
    25
    Location:
    Murphy NC 28906
    Mine had an attempted theft in which the thief, deciding it was too much work to steal my compressor, decided to cut the wires on the coil, steal the coil, air cleaner, and carb.

    He got bit by a Great Pyrenees and abandoned the operation.

    Here is the info I need:

    On a Smith 100CFM Ford 302 V8 with electronic ignition there were two wires that went to each side of the coil,

    Gallery:
    The colors of the wires are: brown, green, red, and black
    Distributor is 84-87 302 style, it is an electronic ignition on the vehicle. He cut the wires on the coil, we have not been able to find the coil, the people who own SMITH have nothing to say to me, manual is no longer available on web.

    I remember distinctly that two wires were joined at a female spade terminal on each side and slipped over the male terminal on each side. But I have no way of knowing which way this goes.

    Does anyone have a Smith Tow Behind Compressor to look at ? I've tried asking on SmokStak but I think it is a bit too new.
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  2. Jonas302

    Jonas302 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2015
    Messages:
    576
    Location:
    mn
    Coil will be standard off a pickup from auto parts store I will look at my compressor in the morning see with the colors match
     
  3. Geardoc

    Geardoc Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2013
    Messages:
    25
    Location:
    Murphy NC 28906
    Thank you very much
     
  4. Geardoc

    Geardoc Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2013
    Messages:
    25
    Location:
    Murphy NC 28906
    Thanks, I got a coil, it's like you said, matches the old one. If you get a chance to look, I'd be extremely grateful.
     
  5. Jonas302

    Jonas302 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2015
    Messages:
    576
    Location:
    mn
    I have a green to negative and red to positive yellow taped off

    I dont see the brown like yours 1/4 qc terminals to the coil and see if it will start
    My wiring is pretty hacked by previous "mechanic"


    IMG_1823.JPG
     
  6. Jonas302

    Jonas302 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2015
    Messages:
    576
    Location:
    mn
  7. Jonas302

    Jonas302 Senior Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2015
    Messages:
    576
    Location:
    mn
    These are pretty cool compressors they run a ford 302 on 4 cylinders using standard distributor with the extra four wires grounded out the non firing side has a special head in it never been inside so not sure if there are any differences in valve train ect with the 120 gal tank it runs the heck out of a 1 inch gun





    IMG_1825.JPG IMG_1827.JPG IMG_1828.JPG
     
    check likes this.
  8. Tinkerer

    Tinkerer Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 21, 2009
    Messages:
    4,106
    Location:
    On A Riverbank in IL. USA
    For what its worth I found the manual for your air compressors. But, it cannot be downloaded even tho it has a download page. All you will get is .pdf file of blank pages.
    My workaround that is to take a screenshot of each and every page if you want the manual bad enough.
    The images below are an example of what I did.
    valve.png
    list.png
    The link to the page -----> https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1015535/Smith-Air-Compressors-160.html?page=36#manual
     
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2019
    Jonas302 likes this.
  9. Geardoc

    Geardoc Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2013
    Messages:
    25
    Location:
    Murphy NC 28906
    Thank you. You saved my bacon. Green and Brown to Negative on mine, brown goes to a cutoff solenoid on mine. Red and black to positive. Brown is the oil pressure interrupt. Black is from the solenoid on the head.

    The only Gordon Smith or Smith I ever knew to be bad was the one the successor company(pre-BossAir) got some 477 engines and they stuck them in place of the 460. I had a 477 in a truck and it was bad, but in a compressor it was terrible.

    THANK YOU.
     
  10. Geardoc

    Geardoc Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2013
    Messages:
    25
    Location:
    Murphy NC 28906
    The manualslib has a manualslib.com watermark over the coil, making it unseeable. The other thing they did was use the 460 manual for 302, like there was no difference, and unfortunately there is. Besides that manuals lib's scan- if you have a 460 and don't worry about burning something up, you can trace back using the manualslib method you did. THANKS!
     
  11. Tinkerer

    Tinkerer Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 21, 2009
    Messages:
    4,106
    Location:
    On A Riverbank in IL. USA
    Is this a little better ? :)
    Too bad the publisher didn't print better images.
    coil.png
     
    mg2361 and Jonas302 like this.
  12. Tinkerer

    Tinkerer Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 21, 2009
    Messages:
    4,106
    Location:
    On A Riverbank in IL. USA
    If anyone wants the watermark free manual, send your email address to me in a PM.
     
  13. Geardoc

    Geardoc Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2013
    Messages:
    25
    Location:
    Murphy NC 28906
    I've also used this too in a pinch, it's more work than a screenshot sometimes, sometimes the screenshot is more work.
    https://webpagetopdf.com/
     
  14. Tinkerer

    Tinkerer Senior Member

    Joined:
    May 21, 2009
    Messages:
    4,106
    Location:
    On A Riverbank in IL. USA
    I have the real manual in .pdf.
    It isn't converted screenshots.
    I only use screenshots for a couple of pages when I want save webpage content.