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Making a Cutting Edge

Volvomad

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Some times you just got to give a lash at things yourself even if they may be a bit mad (not saying this idea is)(more my own).
Good for the soul
 

alaskaforby4

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I recently purchased a Hypertherm 65 Plasma cutter, which really spurred this whole "cutting edge" thing on. It's opened up so many new possibilities! Truly an amazing tool. Yesterday I was practicing with the gouging tip removing the welds from a dented panel. So much funner than grinding everything!
The more I look at detailed schematics of things the more I realize how 2 dimensional stuff starts out as, then welding together to make something useful, the possibilities are really endless.




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alaskaforby4

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One of the edges I was going to "make" was flippable for another season. I did give hardfacing the lip with stick a go. The flat welding turned out okay. After that I gave going up the sides a try, I was able to make the 7018 rod behave okay, but when switching to the stoody 31 rod I could not make it go uphill,downhill, drag, push, anything! It all kind of boogered up, is this just the nature of the type of rod? what can I try to make it look a little more presentable? Here's a video of the flat work
 

John C.

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I've never been able to run hard face out of position and make it look good. When doing sides of something I've either accepted that it will look like crap or I took the subject off the machine and turned it so that I was welding flat.
 

Jonas302

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I Hardface with wire its a challenge to to the sides its easier to cheat and put on a piece of ar or the little wear blocks if you do have to buy hardface supplies talk with your professional welding store about your application as there are so many different types time and money to be lost using the wrong product
I didn't catch what size rod you had but the spec sheet shows only flat over 1/8 inch
https://mam.esab.com/assets/1/BDBA5...E71D60CC5/V410011-en_US-FactSheet_Main-01.pdf

I like your tire sipes also
 

lantraxco

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Years ago I ran some rod that was acceptable for downhand passes, but then I was running a Miller Big 40 at the time. I sincerely regret ever selling that big mother, smoothest DC stick machine I've ever run. Customer told me later my hardface lasted longer than the previous guys, I just wish I remembered what brand and number that rod was!
 

alaskaforby4

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I've never been able to run hard face out of position and make it look good. When doing sides of something I've either accepted that it will look like crap or I took the subject off the machine and turned it so that I was welding flat.

Excellent, glad to hear it wasn't just my poor welding skils!

I Hardface with wire its a challenge to to the sides its easier to cheat and put on a piece of ar or the little wear blocks if you do have to buy hardface supplies talk with your professional welding store about your application as there are so many different types time and money to be lost using the wrong product
I didn't catch what size rod you had but the spec sheet shows only flat over 1/8 inch
https://mam.esab.com/assets/1/BDBA5...E71D60CC5/V410011-en_US-FactSheet_Main-01.pdf

I like your tire sipes also

Yes, typically I'll take these old edges and use them as wear bars. just all out of edges currently! The rod was 3/16's I found a Stoody amperage chart but id didn't say anything about flat/horz. That is good to know!
Tire siper was awesome, I'll make a seperate post on that sometime, waiting to get a comparison on ice with the newley treaded tires.

Years ago I ran some rod that was acceptable for downhand passes, but then I was running a Miller Big 40 at the time. I sincerely regret ever selling that big mother, smoothest DC stick machine I've ever run. Customer told me later my hardface lasted longer than the previous guys, I just wish I remembered what brand and number that rod was!
On our 966c Loader it has some hardfacing thats lasted the test of time. The beads on it must be 3/4" x 1/2" thick! I'm not sure what they put it down with but must have been a monster welder.
 

alaskaforby4

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I started the bucket/cutting edge project, 1st up was to swap the couplers. Or rather put the pin grabber style on the larger bucket. I have a Hypertherm 85 plasma and it wasn't to happy about cutting the lower portion on the coupler on the left. It was 2" thick! I had to come at it from both sides. 2B443796-3764-488F-8F66-9195F0D85754.jpeg

Finally got them both off and started prep for re-attaching. EAB601E2-C189-4DFC-913D-0FBE4FD5F85F.jpeg

The pin grabber of course wouldnt fit between the old coupler and 1/4" had to come out of both sides. The gouging tip was quite fun to work with, much funner then a grinder, its amazing how intricate you can get with them, each swipe is like removing a layer of steel with a paint brush.
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I didnt remove these ears as they attach to the core of the bucket and will be the main anchor for new coupler
 

alaskaforby4

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I cut the sides down in order to grab trees a little better. The tooth bucket is better for this, but sometimes it happens. Tomorrow we will be drilling holes to attach a removable cutting edgeD7A55085-8A2E-4CD1-92E5-B353A109BF2F.jpeg
 

alaskaforby4

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The WBM edge we took off another bucked to use as a template had a massive crack throughout. not sure how somthing like this would happed? its on a little 120 excavator.0FCDD29A-1186-4194-8EA7-EE94735696C1.jpeg06DEA109-D6DE-4018-998E-6F8766891A9F.jpeg
 

Bls repair

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What’s the steel on the end of the edge for ? Is the main edge flat or rounded from wear?
 
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