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Major shovel Fail.

Discussion in 'Mining/Aggregates' started by Hank R, Nov 15, 2022.

  1. Hank R

    Hank R Senior Member

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    My contact up at the mine is a truck Mechanic, that grew up across the street from my house, My understand was that shovel had issues in the lower end. Also me and 3 friends meet every morning at 6:00 for coffee, Al his son in law Warren used to work for P&H in Fernie BC now he is Staff at Highland Valley in charge of shovels and Al is going up to see them on Friday and he hopes to find out more for me , He is hoping he will not be the fall guy for this job. As he hired a contractor from the US to do this job.. Just not sure how much information I will receive or what I can place on line here.
     
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    Last photo, post 18 Look FAR Left, UC. Appears was removed to REAR. WHY would they do that? Would have to be taken SIGNIFICANTLY Higher to get it out.
     
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    It looks like the under carriage to the left in this photo. I don't know much about this type of work-but those
    supports look rather small to me compared to the ones in 92U's photo.

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    I have an old bumper jack out in the shed I could loan they if that would help get this back up on the jack stands!

    Back as a kid we would use a pair of those bumper jacks to lift the rear of our lot cars while working on them. Kind of surprising we lived through that!
     
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    Nothing has really happened over the last week, they suspect a jack failure. I think they are waiting for a 3rd party to do a investigation, as to what went wrong and why. The contractor that does this kind of work is well known and has lifted shovels for years. My pea brain thinks it will be a long time before shovel is jacked up and a check inside for damages etc. I would think a lot of mines are watching this failure real close.
     
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    I was thinking that BC Mines act will or may be changing the rules as to how they do this lift and safety issues. I do not think I have it in me to work under that much weight after looking at the jacks.
     
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    How else would they do the lift? Any way they do it, either jacks or cranes, its probably not a light little pick.

    The difficulty is, there's probably not a lot of this kind of equipment around, and its easy for the powers that be to say "can't lift it like that"- but don't offer any alternatives. And then nobody can pick them up. What they going to do then? Write it off and push it in the quarry pit?

    Personally, if the jacks are engineered and correct, I think I'd prefer jacks over trying to pick it with cranes. Maybe jacks with manual lock dogs. :)
     
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    Call these guys. lol spring 2015 002.JPG
     
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    The one in the picture I posted once the undercarriage is walked out, its lowered back to the bottom of jack travel. Since the shovel rests across the beam its really hard for it to go anywhere. Apparently the laydown pad is engineered to handle cranes, jacks etc.

    What really sketched me out was jacking up the shovel to do rollers. There had to be half a dozen people under the carbody installing the shim plates around the piston rods of the jacks as it went up.
     
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    Can imagine the late night sweats those that worked under the house are having now.
     
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    Once the upper works have been jacked up sufficiently and the lower works have been removed I'd bet money that the jacking system is lowered down on to some type of mechanical lock before anyone is allowed to go under the revolving frame to work.