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Looking to buy a new tractor

Discussion in 'Agricultural Equipment' started by Benjamin Herd, Jun 12, 2018.

  1. hvy 1ton

    hvy 1ton Senior Member

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    They are throw away tractors. The dealer support I've seen is questionable. I wouldn't touch one with a 10' stick.
     
  2. Benjamin Herd

    Benjamin Herd Well-Known Member

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    Thank you hvy 1 ton. I just didn't know anything about them. I'll toss that thought to the side.
     
  3. Benjamin Herd

    Benjamin Herd Well-Known Member

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    What kind of hours would be to many on the 6000 series JD that you spoke of?
     
  4. hvy 1ton

    hvy 1ton Senior Member

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    Depends on what you are comfortable with. I wouldn't be afraid of anything under 5,000 hours that had been taken care of. I don't what you are looking to spend, but there are a couple very low hour tractors in the KY/TN area on tractor house atm.
     
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  5. Benjamin Herd

    Benjamin Herd Well-Known Member

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    I don't want to go crazy on spending but I'm not afraid to pay for something nice. I was originally looking at the 5085E when I started the thread. I just don't want to pay new price for a used tractor if that makes sense
     
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  7. Benjamin Herd

    Benjamin Herd Well-Known Member

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    What about the JD 5525 found a 2005 model her close with 2800 hrs
     
  8. hvy 1ton

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    Does it have the syncshuttle or power reverser trans? Either one is better than a straight syncro for loader work, but the partial powershit would be better.
     
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    any new tractor over a 90 or a 100 HP has def and all of the emission stuff on them, that is why tractors a round that size used are hard to find because a lot of people don't want all of the junk on them
     
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  10. Tenwheeler

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    I thank those were good little tractors right there.
     
  11. td25c

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    You cat's know why John Deere paints the tractors green ?
     
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  12. Tenwheeler

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    Please fill us in! If it is the color of cash you have not owned a Challenger.
     
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  13. Tenwheeler

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    Even over 50 Hp
     
  14. colson04

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    I partially agree with this. I have run the 6410, 6420 and a 6330 daily on our feed wagon and also doing other jobs like hat work and light spring seeding. The 6410, while an older series, is an extremely reliable and very versatile machine. So reliable that we sold the 6330 and replaced it with another 6410.
    All of these tractors had JD's PowerQuad transmission w/power reverser.

    The 6420 had around 13,000 hours when we traded it off for the 6330. It had numerous problems both mechanical and electrical and was constantly in the shop.

    The 6330 only had 2000 hours when we got it and needed injectors by 2500 hours. Then it had a long string of over heating issues that finally led us to start looking for another 6410. Too many electronics on that tractor. It was comfy and quiet, but too many other headaches. It had less than 5000 hours when we got rid of it.

    That leads us to the 6410's. Our original 6410 has 30,000 hours and counting. It runs 8 hours a day, every day. Its an open station tractor so it gets a break around November when we put the 6410 with a cab on the feed wagon.
    We overhauled it at 22,500 hours and it's been working like a champ ever since. We have replaced a clutch, tie rod ends and pretty much all the hoses, but it gets used a lot and things will wear out eventually.

    I'm actually looking for another 6410 myself. A low hour 6420 would be my 2nd choice. I'll pass on the 6x30 series. Not worth the headache.
     
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    JD painted green so they can hide in the tall grass when a Minneapolis - Moline shows up .:D:p
     
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  16. Tenwheeler

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    Where did they go? Used to be bad boys at the pulls. Some were running propain. In those days the increased sled weighting was by people standing at the markers, on each side, and stepping on to the sled as it came by. My brother and I were allowed to count as one. When the classes progressed larger tractors were parked on the sled and people were still the the added weight.
    It used to be for fun and bragging rights. The first Deutz I saw was at a pull. Maybe in Assumption Ill. A man was telling him his 4X4 Chevy could do better than that. They were having a loud public discussion. It won't, you can't it's a tractor pull! It was allowed and he pulled up with a black steel wheel farm truck. It had wooden slatted stock panels on both sides and the front. There were a lot of people in the back. He hooked up and smoked that Deutz.
    Folks moved us across the country. Can not recall the last time I saw a Minnimo.
     
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  17. Plebeian

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    Obviously the John Deere firstly when assessing your options. Those JD 6410s should have more than 75-85 horsepower. Need to check the wiring closely in the older JDs. What terrain , contour you are on?

    New Hollands or Case-IHs (5040, 5050s are still fairly basic) might cost a bit less than the JDs for an initial purchase price.
    Read some of the online guides for buying used tractors - such looking at tires closely - they are a big expense and can make old tractors uneconomic versus paying the extra for getting a brand new or low hour tractor that still has factory warranty and good tires
     
  18. hvy 1ton

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    Good point about the tires. Put a full set of radials on my 6400 last summer. Came in dangerously close to $5k.
     
  19. Benjamin Herd

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    Thanks for the info Plebeian. I hear you on the older John Deere electrical. Ours doesn't have hardly any electronics at all but man I've had crap to fix Everytime I turn around electrical. The terrain I'm in is fairly flat with a few hills but not very bad at all.
     
  20. hillbillywrench

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    The farm that I work on has been through several new JD tractors in the last several years. Three 6105D's (two had starters eat the flywheel, one caught on fire, one blew an engine at less than 500 hrs., one had AC issues. All had 3X3 trans with unsyncronized ranges (not enough gears) and all have been traded off!) Three 6120E's (one was totalled in a wreck (operator error), one lost all hydraulic power at about 1000 hrs, one had faulty exhaust/DEF wiring. one was going to need a flywheel soon, two have been traded off. At least they had 3X4 full sync trans with Hi/low powershift. We are moving up to M and R series tractors for better quality?? I would avoid the D and E series. The older 00, 10, 20, 25, and even 30 series lasted much better, IMHO.
    In JD's defense, we do have good dealer support, the new tractors are very comfortable, and we use the tractors pretty hard.
    I grew up running a G670 diesel Moline and a Case 970 diesel. I love the new transmissions and comfy cabs but I sure miss the those simple old tractors.
     
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