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Live Floor Trailer

Discussion in 'Trailers' started by P Backus, Dec 27, 2008.

  1. P Backus

    P Backus Well-Known Member

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    I have been thinking on it a lot, and the idea has evolved to this:
    Use my existing 45' flatbed trailer and modify by running a chain down each side of the trailer and pulling them with a shaft on the rear with two sprockets (one for each chain) which is turned by a reduction unit powered by a hydraulic motor. The chains would be attached only to a bulkhead at the front of the trailer so that when in operation, the bulkhead would push all the bales off the back. The chains would be a continuous loop (probably just use cable to complete the loop) so that when unloaded (with the bulkhead at the back), you could just reverse the hydraulic motor and return the bulkhead to the front of the trailer again for the next load.
    Clear as mud?:eek:

    This is the simplest and least expensive method I have come up with. Have any other ideas anyone? I'm still refining this in my mind, but am planing on starting on cutting and welding pretty soon! I have an old barn cleaner unit I am planning on using for the reduction unit that would be mounted below the deck, except for the last sprocket which would be on the shaft at the rear of the trailer.

    Any ideas on what hydraulic motor would be needed and where to get one? Or how about the requirements for the truck wet kit pump? Should I just call a "hydraulics place" and ask what they recommend?

    Pb
     
  2. Iron Horse

    Iron Horse Senior Member

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    I would say the amount of frictional drag the load would have on the tray would be enormous . I would think far more than any hydraulic motor and reduction box could overcome .

    Does it not matter that the bales will fall all over the ground and break thier strings ? Do the stock just eat from the pile ?
     
  3. P Backus

    P Backus Well-Known Member

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    I currently haul the bales on a 24' straight truck with a hoist. I usually don't have to get over 30º or 35º of tilt on the bed before the bales start to slide off. Based on fuzzy images of high school physics (the high school girls are not as fuzzy in my mind...) the friction at that angle would be less than 1/2 of the weight of the load. So with a 40,000 lb load, I'm thinking that a 20,000 lb pull should get them sliding. That should be attainable, I'd think. Am I thinking about that wrong?

    I rarely even break one string, much less an entire bale by dumping them, and I have dumped 1000's. It can happen though, and I was going to fab up some kind of chute for the back of the flatbed to ease the drop.

    BTW, the reasons for not just continuing to use my dandy straight truck include owning/insuring/licensing only one truck, and the increased capacity of the semi.
    Thanks!
     
  4. Iron Horse

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    You've got me there , my mind is full of fuzz when it come to remembering what i was taught at school . As for the girls , i was the fool chasing them around with frogs instead of ............:Banghead
     
  5. pavving

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    wet kit

    i also was looking at going to a walking floor;travis told me a around a 45 gpm flow would be what i needed to unload in around 3 minutes,yes i would call just to be safe;i have seen almost new wet kits with everything on ebay for less than a thousand$ good luck let us know how everything works out!
     
  6. Deerehauler

    Deerehauler Well-Known Member

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    We used to haul idiot squares (small square bales) in hay vans. We would build the stack in the back of the trailer and while the loader was getting more bales, we would walk the floor ahead. Unloading and stacking was easy, just walk the floor back as you unload the trailer--no walking clear to the front of the van trailer to get the last few bales. This was a great set-up for delivering horse hay.
     
  7. OCR

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    :falldownlaugh... :lmao​


    OCR... :)
     
  8. pavving

    pavving Active Member

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    yepers!
     
  9. Dualie

    Dualie Senior Member

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    we used to load small squares in van trailers. we used a gradall telehandler and hand stacked them. My dad told me that it would "make me tough" and "Build character"

    atleast i didnt have to hand unload them when they got to Texas in august. but it wasn't much better loading them in California.


    You need a hay squeeze
     
  10. pavving

    pavving Active Member

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    ya,i know what you mean my dad told me he carried hid two brother to school in three foot of snow 2 miles up hill each way,lol
     
  11. Dualie

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    Yea my favorite part was he would always tell me this after he rolled the window down in his pickup that was well air conditioned. he would then roll the window up and drive off.
     
  12. pavving

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    lol,that sounds like my father he will gripe over paying 100$ for a room in vegas and then go dow stairs and loose 5000$
     
  13. OCR

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    :falldownlaugh :falldownlaugh ​
    Stop... this is bad for my health...:lmao :lmao


    OCR... :)
     
  14. Dualie

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    that is nice

    i have a friend who i haven't seen in a few years south of fresno who has some of those that are all yellow they look real nice you may know him? his name is melven maggiene and his brother felix they are big time hay brokers! i may have spelled the last name wrong but thats close.they have several big yellow trucks they go all over in to nevada and northern california,yhey have nice rigs$$
     
  16. Dualie

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    I know OF maggini. I talked to the guy once briefly at a truck show. One of the nicest fleets of peterbilts i have ever been near in my life. Hell the squeeze is cleaner than most new luxury cars.

    words cant describe how clean his rides are.
     
  17. pavving

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    yep that's melvin the blond headed muscler guy and his brother felix everything down to there pickups are yellow.and like you said NICE his trucks say hat bull.very wealthy but down to earth guys,about 12 years ago melvins brother baught him a real nice wooden sign to put in front of his office as a gift and paid like 35k for it,melvin is realy big hearted a it braugt tears to him,but for sure he has first class everthing right down to his yellow squeeze,it's a small world! i lived in fresno for about 9 or 10 years,i went back last year and the traffic seemed it had trippled since i lived there,i kinda miss it till i think about the traffic and the gang problem wich was one of the biggest factors why we moved after we had our first daughter,it got to be there was a killing every night in fresno,i don't know if thats calmed down any?i sure hope so because ther is a lot of good people there and it's a pretty nice farming area
     
  18. Alan

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    I've lived a sheltered life up here in the far northeast. What is that "squeeze" you're talking about and what does it do?
     
  19. Dualie

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    that's a hay squeeze on his links that he posted,it looks like a giant forklift,