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Kubota SVL75 vs. Case TR270

Discussion in 'Compact Track/Multi Terrain Loaders' started by Canuck Digger, Mar 16, 2020.

  1. Canuck Digger

    Canuck Digger Well-Known Member

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    Contemplating a purchase of one of the two above mentioned. Would consider a Tak as well, but for now, those are the two. Not purchasing brand new, would be a low hour machine 2012 to 2017.
    Have I run either one - no
    Do I have a dealer near by for both - yes
    Am I brand loyal - no

    No 1 priority is simplicity and reliability! Pre Def would be ideal.
    Not as concerned about break out, gadgets etc. High flow, not a must. Not a big guy so cab size not critical.
    Things I like about the kubota: roll up door, bit more lift capacity, Pilot controls (I believe) perceived to have less issues in general.
    Things I like about the case: H pattern controls (as I already have a wheel case 445), keep the same brand/color, generally better purchase price than the kubota.

    Think having 2 different skid steers with 2 different control patterns wouldn't be fun?
    Case did have some chronic issues with the early years of the alpha series, not sure which model year they've been sorted out.

    Machine would be used mainly to move materials from A to B, general hard scape/landscape construction, load trucks and final grade

    I would certainly consider a Tak, however the 230 I think would be a bit small, the 240 a bit too big, there aren't many around here and dealer support is spotty.

    Welcome any/all constructive thoughts.
     
  2. KSSS

    KSSS Senior Member

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    I cant speak to the Kubota. The first couple years of the CASE Alpha series were tough. CASE did work to correct the issues that came up initially. I have/had 4 Alphas. The initial early 2012 I had some EH issues and a few other problems, I traded it at just under 2k hours. The next one I bought was a Tier 4i 2014 SV300 which I traded at 2K hours, other than an AC line fixed once under warranty and once I paid for, never had lost a day in that 2K hours. The 2017 TR340 and 2018 SV340 which I still own have been good. I have never had a TR270, but I can speak to the series in general in saying that they have been pretty solid since that inception. The CASE should have a DOC only without a DPF, which I believe Kubota runs, that should make life easier for the long run. I have not had an EH issue since the first machine I bought.
     
  3. Canuck Digger

    Canuck Digger Well-Known Member

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    Thx. KSSS. Some valuable feedback. What's a DOC. Yes kubota runs a DPF. It's a pain. They hate idle time. I've run the 95 and we had couple of early nights during snow removal.
     
  4. KSSS

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    DOC is essentially a catalyst like you have on car. Pretty much maintenance free. FPT engines don't run a DPF at all in Tier 4f. Even the large frame machines are SCR with no DPF. The sub 75 hp machines like the TR270 TR310, TR370 (all track machines) are DOC only to meet emissions.
     
  5. Canuck Digger

    Canuck Digger Well-Known Member

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    Gotcha. Thank you.
     
  6. hydraulichec

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    Both good machines. So you won't go wrong with either one. When I was still selling (2012) I sold both, and Customers just LOVED the Kubota controls and how smooth they were. With skidloaders customers always forget that the control levers are both a transmission shift lever & steering wheel. So human nature works against us in a heavy push situation. When we dig into a pile, we instinctively want to help. So we tend to push on the controls. But what that is doing, is essentially upshifting. (Not good). But what I love about the kubota machines, is they have a true anti stall valve in the system, that prevents operators from stalling out the engine from accidently pushing on the controls in a hard push. Every company says they have this. But they don't. Most just use the theory that when the engine starts lugging down, thus charge pressure will lower, thus reducing servo pressures. But to an operator, this doesn't really work well. Good luck
     
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    Kubota HVAC on the SVL75 & SVL75-2 sucks, literally. Every season, I have to fully disassemble the HVAC box and clean the cores. It doesn't matter how religious I am about the HVAC filters, because the rear panel sucks dirt in around it, because the whole rear of the cab inner is the inlet air path.
    With that said, both (I have 1 of each in the fleet), have been damned near 100% up time. I did modify the fuel inlet (due to coworkers feeding it grass and straw and rocks) which stopped the fuel separator inlet from plugging. And, installed an engine air filter precleaner on each.
    I'd put another of either in the fleet in a heartbeat.
    My SVL75 has 3k hours and we wore out a set of tracks at 2200 hours. Muffler support fractured. Engine oil filter developed a hole from a misrouted hose.
    My SVL75-2 has a 1k hours, and hasn't taken any repairs save for the fuel system mod and air cleaner mod.
     
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    I have a Kubota SLV 95 pre deft.
    More reach than the Case.
    A little more speed, than Case.
    I love the door you leave it open and operate, can get out with the arms lifted.
    I don't like the air conditioning vent blowing on my knee.
    I use mine for moving building materials, with a boom setting trusses, breaking concrete with a hyd. hammer, and loading dump trucks. It is a horse when peeling sod it fills the bucket and just keeps on going.
     
  9. Txhayseed

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    Did anyone else ever have issues with the tr270s breaking oil pans ?? If you let dirt or debris get under the pan angle of the pan would trap dirt rocks etc and cause the pan to crack. We replaced probably 4 or 5 of them all with the same issue. I dont like the case units. They seem to rattle like crazy. Have horrible horrible horrible wiring and electronics. And can someone tell me who decided to put those stupid crappy little nut certs into a construction machine. They tear out from every hole and before you know it you have crap falling off. But i also.dont like the Kubota. I hate how you sit in it. I feel like im not sitting in the right spot. You got to dang near stand up and smash your face into the cab door you see when your hooking up an attachment. I have not been a big fan of either right now... And im a dyed in the wool case.... Case ih guy..
     
  10. KSSS

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    They are not perfect, nothing is, but those issues from the first years have been addressed.
     
  11. Canuck Digger

    Canuck Digger Well-Known Member

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    Thx. to all.. Some good valuable feedback that didn't turn out into a ford vs. chev finger pointing exercise... Yes, they all have "issues". As per the original thread, reliability and simplicity are my priorities.