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IT28F engine problem sounds bad.

Discussion in 'Tool Carriers' started by Phil P, Dec 31, 2019.

  1. Nige

    Nige Senior Member

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    As promised, the SysOp for the fuel system.
     

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  2. Phil P

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    Hi

    I got the Case 7110 electrical system squared away this afternoon.

    So I took the time to remove the fan drive belts and check the alternator and fan bearings to see if the was the squawking noise we heard. I found the water pump drive belt loose so tightened it and put the fan belts back on.

    I ran it for a couple of minutes this time and I can hear the knocking noise but it is not near as bad as it was in the past.

    Have a look at the video and see what you think.




    Phil P
     
  3. Nige

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    Seems that the video didn't upload correctly. I can't see it.
     
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    The bearings in the water pump belt tensioner are famous for failing in these engines. When that happens the water pump belt slips and the engine overheats.
    These engines are pretty sooty and dirty running I would recommend more frequent oil changes.
     
  5. Nige

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    Couldn't agree more. I almost had a stroke when the OP said the user was changing oil at 500-hour intervals.
     
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    I run 500hr oil change intervals on my old mechanical motors. I have Deere 6059s running original everything's with over 22k hours.
    I did lose the third 6059 at 19k hours when the balancer separated. Windowed the block and oil pan with a main cap. Drove it on a trailer with no oil, drove it off at the other end, with no oil...innards looked like a 5k hour motor, save for the added ventilation.

    I just don't see a problem with 500 hr intervals.

    I'm running 400 hr intervals on all my newer stuff, though.
    Never seen a sample that says that I'm doing it wrong on either interval.
     
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    I just fixed that I am not a lover of YouTube so I am not very use to the way it works.
     
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    I’m only talking about a 3116 when I say 500 hours is high. If they aren’t tuned exactly right they produce a lot of soot in the oil.
     
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    Somebody’s knocking shut her down! You had me cringing by the end of the video.
     
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    The link works now for me !
    At 3:24 in the video --- yikes !!!
    Time to get out the wenches !
     
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    Yup, she got the death rattle .....
     
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    Yep not familiar with that engine but sure does sound like someone is trying to get out fast!
     
  15. Nige

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    I agree. I've seen a fair bit of oil analysis that suggests the 3116 are "dirty" unless they are set up 100% on the fuel side.
    Additionally from the OP's descriptions of the operation it sounds as though it's not exactly kind to a machine. If you had a mind to you could easily classify it as severe service. That in itself would qualify to cut the oil change period in half from the one recommended in the manual, although the recommended interval is every 250 hours anyway. If it was my engine no way would I be changing the oil every 500 hours, it probably comes out the drain plug hole like tar.
     
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    Hi

    I have a couple of minutes this morning.

    I haven’t got the oil analysis back yet.

    The oil changes haven’t indicated anything abnormal

    Nige and the rest of you any guess as to what is knocking?

    This happened all of a sudden no prior warning the machine was being transported from the north end of the property to the middle about 4 miles when the operator heard the noise come on suddenly and shut down immediately.

    Also the engine has 5,963 hours on the meter.

    Phil P
     
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    Pull the valve cover and check every valve rocker and push rod. Then drain the engine oil and see if there is metal in it. Also, check the water level in your radiator and make sure none of it is in the oil pan.
     
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