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iron bull triple axel dump

Discussion in 'Trailers' started by banditman, Sep 22, 2022.

  1. banditman

    banditman Active Member

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    Looking at buying an iron bull triple axel dump trailer to haul my bobcat e50 mini x in. How are these trailers? They are on the cheaper priced side but I just cant swing a 25 grand diamond c trailers.
     
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    Most light trailers are built like crap and are not worth spending the extra on. I've never owned a diamond c but there is no way i'd pay that kind of premium, i've seen one's a few years old just as rusty as the rest, i've heard the self adjusting dexter 7k axles do not last so better off not bother with self adjusting. The I beam frames they use are a better option, but i've never bent a square tubing or channel frame on the others, the only time you'll ever have an issue with frame bending is if you load a heavy machine and don't have legs or stands on the ramps at the back, but I bet you'd bend the I beam eventually too. I've had my cheaper one for a year and a half and it's given me no issues, I had a tandem southland before which is suppose to be a premium brand and it was garbage. If you're only hauling a 5 ton unless you have a ton of attachments or plan on going bigger why not just get a tandem 7k trailer? If you go with say a 18' it will weight under 3k. Triple axle is overkill for that size of machine.
     
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  3. banditman

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    More info I'm going overkill on the trailer because its going to be mostly in the hills and dirt roads. Its also a gooseneck. Just wondering about build quality of iron bull
     
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    The website had some not so good comments from purchasers....
    Maybe 3 axles to spread out the weight better and use less steel in the frame.
     
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    I have the iron bull 18’ bumper pull tandem 7k wood deck trailer and it’s exactly 3,000lbs... plus a couple hundred in chains/binders in the toolbox.
    build quality is ehhh... it works.
    Would definitely buy again tho considering I abuse it on gravel roads/hills and it’s still solid.
     
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    I always guessed 3 7k axles cost less than 2 10k axles, might have to ask the machine shop about that one
     
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    This is just my opinion, a three axel trailer is going to want to torque and twist the frame so much when making tight turns especially when loaded. Like baking in a tight driveway or site or even just turning around at the end of a road. I know nothing about Iron Bull trailers, but I do know there are lots of options that will get you close to the capacity of three axel trailer with only 2 axels. Plus when you step up to 8000lb axels you also get larger brakes. I know trailers are expensive now, but my feeling is if you’re going to spend the money on a trailer, do a ton of research and only buy it once, instead of buying one that just causes you tons of grief.
     
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    I had not thought of that angle, yes 7k axles are dime a dozen, 10k not so much.
     
  9. banditman

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    That's something to think about I'm actually looking at a heavy duty pj trailer with 2 10k axels as well.
     
  10. suladas

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    IMO 8k axles are a waste of time, either stick with 7k or go to 10k. 8k are way heavier then 7k so weight capacity increase is very little, and they are nearly as expensive as 10k axles, I believe a 3x7k trailer is about the same as 2x8k axles even (although it's about impossible to find 8k axles), and 8k axle parts are SO pricey.

    The reason for so many 3x7k trailers compared to 2x10k axles is price and weight. 10k axles are better in every single way but they cost way more, weight way more, and cost way more to maintain.

    I have a 3x7k 24' car hauler and it's ok. I only paid $9200 all in for it though so I don't care too much, i've had it a year and a half without any issues, only thing i've done to it is adjust the brakes. For a 2x10k trailer I was looking at like $15k. I also didn't want the extra weight of the 10k axles and a deckover. My trailer weights 3750, with 10k axles and deckover it would be like 5500. There is the option of 10k axles with single tires but price is insane, and I wasn't a fan of that much weight on a single tire.
     
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    Yea I think virtually all are like that, they have a few different features here and there but they are basically just slapped together throw away trailers. I don't see the point in spending a fortune on the most expensive brands.
     
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    Bought a N&N Galvanized trailer from Quebec at a trailer dealer near Edmonton. It has 2 - 7000Lbs axles but they put 4080Lbs tires on it instead of 3500 Lbs tires they normally come with. Tires rated at 8000 lbs per axle. I mounted a storage box on the front. Just welded Expanded metal to the ramps for stability in winter time for loading. Moved my 10000 John Deere 332G skid steer on it and it rides super nice. Paid $13500 for it in May and very well built. You do get what you paid for.
    Simon C
     
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    If your saying 10000# your overweight with that trailer.
     
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    well i ended up buying a 2020 pj HD low pro dump de heavy duty trailer. Not exactly what i wanted but it is extremely heavy built. 7 gauge floor and sides that are 3 ft tall 16 ft long, gooseneck, 10k single wheel torsion axels. Im a little worried about the torsion axel never seen a 10k before but they look really heavy built so i guess ill find out how good they are.
     
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    Pj makes good trailers I've dealt with a couple. I've seen 8k axles but not 10k, I think that would make for a great handy trailer.
     
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    As cfherrman said 10000 LBS would maybe be overweight where he lives, but here in Alberta the maximum single weight listed on the tire is what determines if your overweight.
    4 Tires at 4080 lbs each equals 16320 lbs maximum weight. Subtract the just under 3000 lbs of the trailer and maximum load is 13320 lbs. Put 1000 Lbs on the truck and the load can now be 14320 lbs. The skid steer weighs 10000 lbs so is under the maximum.
    Even the owner of the business that I do lots of my work for changed all his 5500 Dodge trucks tires to be able to haul 3000 lbs more based on the maximum dual load stamped on the side of the tires.
    That being said , in another part of the country, different laws prevail.
    Simon C
     
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    That trailer doesn't weigh 3000#, closer to 6000#. If it weighed 3k, I wouldn't be putting no 10k on it either.
     
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    The numbers I posted are from my new N&N Trailer that weighs on scale less than 3000 lbs. His trailer (banditman) probably does weigh 6000LBS..
    Mine hauls my 10000LBS John Deere Skid Steer just fine. Mine is not dumping or Goose Neck so much lighter.
    Just in case someone misunderstood.
    Simon C